I have used VMware only, but I can say it is a great program. VMware has a series of online seminars, though I am not sure if they are still doing them. I would recommend trying it, they allow you to try it before you buy it... On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 5:32 PM, <tclug-list-request at mn-linux.org> wrote: > Send tclug-list mailing list submissions to > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > tclug-list-request at mn-linux.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > tclug-list-owner at mn-linux.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of tclug-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Recommendation for Virtualization? (David Alanis) > 2. Re: Recommendation for Virtualization? (Erik Anderson) > 3. Re: Recommendation for Virtualization? (Erik Anderson) > 4. Re: [SATLUG] How to compile StarDict?? (Bruce Broecker) > 5. Re: Recommendation for Virtualization? (Erik Anderson) > 6. New TCLUG Classified Ad (TCLUG Classifieds) > 7. help (Robert Clements) > 8. Sendmail configuration (Deepan) > 9. Re: help (admin at lctn.org) > 10. Re: Recommendation for Virtualization? (marc at e-skinner.net) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 12:00:32 -0500 > From: David Alanis <canito at dalan.us> > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Recommendation for Virtualization? > To: Andrew Zbikowski <andyzib at gmail.com> > Cc: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Message-ID: <20080319120032.0h24chi9co04s8g0 at mail.dalan.us> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; > format="flowed" > > Quoting Andrew Zbikowski <andyzib at gmail.com>: > > > Mac OS X can only be run on Apple hardware. More accurately, legally > > Mac OS X can only be run on Apple hardware, but in the context of the > > TCLUG list, the first statement is valid. > > > > -- > > Andrew S. Zbikowski | http://andy.zibnet.us > > IT Outhouse Blog Thing | http://www.itouthouse.com > > > > What would be the constraint from asking such a legitimate question on > a mailing list? > > Would running such search from the privacy of my home implicate me in any > way? > > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=how+to+run+MAC+OS+X+virtualbox+xen > > It doesn't really matter, I will refine my question: > > Would anyone like to share their experience which of the three > applications (Virtualbox, xen, VMWare) renders the most options, > optimization, user friendlyness, and performance? > > Hardware: HP DV9347cl > OS: Gentoo > > Thank you in advance, > David > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 12:16:49 -0500 > From: "Erik Anderson" <erikerik at gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Recommendation for Virtualization? > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Message-ID: > <fc40260f0803191016y5cc55d27re8239026f46f58ba at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 12:00 PM, David Alanis <canito at dalan.us> wrote: > > > > Would anyone like to share their experience which of the three > > applications (Virtualbox, xen, VMWare) renders the most options, > > optimization, user friendlyness, and performance? > > At work, I was called upon to set up a linux VPS system for our > developers to use. I ended up using UML (user mode linux) for the > virtualization. With UML, you're limited to only using linux guests > (as it requires a guest kernel patch), but that wasn't a problem in my > case. Thus far, I've been *very* happy with both the performance and > stability of the UML system. I currently have eight guest instances > running, ranging from 512MB->2048MB RAM and from 10G->200G disk. Each > of these servers has between 1 and 5 developers pounding on it at a > time, and I have yet to hear any complaints on performance. > > The host OS is Gentoo, linux-2.6.20 (with the skas3 patch), running on > a Dell PowerEdge 2970 (Dual AMD Opteron 2212s, 8GB RAM). > > At this point, I've just been using an ubuntu image for the guests, > with linux-2.6.23.14 guest kernels. > > -Erik > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 12:29:15 -0500 > From: "Erik Anderson" <erikerik at gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Recommendation for Virtualization? > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Message-ID: > <fc40260f0803191029o165d3e7i485506a97f362bcc at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 12:16 PM, Erik Anderson <erikerik at gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > At work, I was called upon to set up a linux VPS system for our > > developers to use. I ended up using UML (user mode linux) for the > > virtualization. With UML, you're limited to only using linux guests > > (as it requires a guest kernel patch), but that wasn't a problem in my > > case. Thus far, I've been *very* happy with both the performance and > > stability of the UML system. I currently have eight guest instances > > running, ranging from 512MB->2048MB RAM and from 10G->200G disk. Each > > of these servers has between 1 and 5 developers pounding on it at a > > time, and I have yet to hear any complaints on performance. > > > > The host OS is Gentoo, linux-2.6.20 (with the skas3 patch), running on > > a Dell PowerEdge 2970 (Dual AMD Opteron 2212s, 8GB RAM). > > > > At this point, I've just been using an ubuntu image for the guests, > > with linux-2.6.23.14 guest kernels. > > I should add - getting UML set up was pretty easy, but it's by no > means a point-and-click deal like VMWare and/or Virtualbox. As long > as you're somewhat comfortable with the commandline and familiar with > linux networking, it should be no problem. I gave Xen a try before > settling on UML, and found UML a lot more simple to get going. > > -erik > > > -- > Erik Anderson > http://andersonfam.org > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 12:30:02 -0500 > From: "Bruce Broecker" <Bruce.Broecker at toro.com> > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] [SATLUG] How to compile StarDict?? > To: "TCLUG Mailing List" <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > Message-ID: > < > C3D9EE274D1F3A4EB9AA0488B6C99FC4086BCF78 at lynms601.global.ad.toro.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > -----Original Message----- > >From: tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org > [mailto:tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org] On Behalf Of Emon > >Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 2:12 AM > >To: TCLUG Mailing List > >Subject: [tclug-list] [SATLUG] How to compile StarDict?? > > >Hello everyone > > >I am trying to compile StarDict on my openSUSE10.3 (KDE desktop) > machine > >after failing to find a SUSE rpm for it. > > According to http://rpm.pbone.net there are stardict rpms in the base > OpenSuSE distribution. > > See > ftp.opensuse.org/distribution/10.3/repo/oss/suse/<arch>/stardict-2.4.8-3 > 5.<arch>.rpm > > Where <arch> is your architecture, either i586 or x86_64 > > This electronic message including any attachments ("Message") may contain > information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure > under trade secret and other applicable law. If you are not the intended > recipient, notify the sender immediately, permanently delete all copies of > this Message, and be aware that examination, use, dissemination, duplication > or disclosure of this Message is strictly prohibited. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 12:43:29 -0500 > From: "Erik Anderson" <erikerik at gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Recommendation for Virtualization? > To: "David Alanis" <canito at dalan.us>, "TCLUG List" > <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > Message-ID: > <fc40260f0803191043rb02026bm7613374a0683b41b at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 12:41 PM, David Alanis <canito at dalan.us> wrote: > > Thank you Erik! > > You're welcome. If you choose to go with UML, feel free to send along > any questions you have along the way. There's a fairly active uml > mailing list and irc channel available to you as well. > > -erik > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 13:20:13 -0500 > From: TCLUG Classifieds <webmaster at mn-linux.org> > Subject: [tclug-list] New TCLUG Classified Ad > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Message-ID: <200803191820.m2JIKDr06489 at crusader.real-time.com> > > New TCLUG Classified Ad > > Category: Computer > > Type of Ad: For Free > > Subject: Sony Vaio PC > > Sony Vaio PC mini tower PC for free. > model PCV-RX260DS > I think this is a PIII 800 Mhz > 392 MB RAM, DVD drive, no HD, no floppy, onboard nic, internal modem, > keyboard included. > > Seller Email address: blackcrow77 at yahoo dot com > > http://www.mn-linux.org/cgi-bin/classifieds/index.cgi > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 10:51:08 -0700 (PDT) > From: Robert Clements <rlbnd at yahoo.com> > Subject: [tclug-list] help > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Message-ID: <375692.61297.qm at web32904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I have NT servers and a linux domain controller running samba and ldap. > My administrator samba password expire and I tried to change it in the > windows prompt. It took but now I can not change the password with smbtools. > I can change the unix password just fine. > > > Thanks in advance for any help. > > > Rob > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20080319/d1c0bb1d/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 03:38:07 +0530 > From: Deepan <codeshepherd at gmail.com> > Subject: [tclug-list] Sendmail configuration > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Message-ID: <6d897e210034680556e41b95f4913991 at localhost.localdomain> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi All, > I am using sendmail via php mail function to send > emails. However few servers reject my mails with > the error 'Sender address rejected: Domain not > found', since mails from my server are sent as > email at localhost.localdomain. How do I change this > to a valid domain name ? We only own a public IP. > we dont really have a domain name, is it possible > to use IP ? > Regards > Deepan > Facebook Sudoku Solver: > http://apps.facebook.com/sudokusolver/ > Sudoku Solver: http://www.sudoku-solver.net/ > Home Page: http://www.codeshepherd/ > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 17:50:33 -0500 (CDT) > From: admin at lctn.org > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] help > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Message-ID: <14645557.2191205967033614.JavaMail.root at mail.lctn.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > > I have NT servers and a linux domain controller running samba and ldap. My > administrator samba password expire and I tried to change it in the windows > prompt. It took but now I can not change the password with smbtools. I can > change the unix password just fine. > > > Thanks in advance for any help. > > > > > smbpasswd? > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20080319/8f3985af/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 17:32:08 -0600 > From: marc at e-skinner.net > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Recommendation for Virtualization? > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Message-ID: > <20080319173208.i51ardju4o080g8c at webmail.littlebirdtech.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; > format="flowed" > > I have been using XEN on Red Hat, CentOS and Fedora. KVM is also very > interesting as it is the new bleeding edge hypervisor in Fedora. The > new virtmanager in RH and CenOS 5.1 is very nice and lets you point'n > click your way through intallations. Command line is always there. > KVM is now also available in Fedora as an option and looks to be the > hypervisor of the future. > > I have seen a "hacked" version of OS X running in XEN - and yes, it is > a NO-NO! > > > > > > > > > > Quoting David Alanis <canito at dalan.us>: > > > Good Day: > > > > I am running Gentoo on a HP DV9347cl series laptop and I would like to > > run a few guest operating systems on top of Gentoo. I do not have much > > experience and am seeking some advice. > > > > Currently using Virtualbox 1.5.4, I got Vista Business running without > > any problems and it runs pretty smooth. However, Windows is not my > > concern. I have an upcoming class based on MAC OS X and I would like > > to attempt to take this class running a virtual machine, for > > educational purposes! > > > > I gave Vista a significant amount of space (10G's) and 1G of memory. > > My first question, is it necessary to give that much memory to a guest > > OS (being that I will not be using it for complex movie editing)? > > > > I suppose my most significant question is which application works best > > here, is it Virtualbox, xen, or VMWare? Now here is the catch, when I > > tried running the OS X install it suddenly crashes and honestly I have > > not had much time to look into this, assuming it can(t) be done? Is > > anyone running OS X inside a virtual app? What was the hardest > > challenge in doing so? > > > > I hope someone can provide some input. > > > > thanks in advanced! > > David > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > End of tclug-list Digest, Vol 39, Issue 21 > ****************************************** > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20080319/58cd995e/attachment-0001.htm