>> Setting it as a precondition to a >> meeting gives Mr Stallman what appears (to me at least) to be a holier >> than thou attitude. >Agree with him or not, RMS has chosen some important principles which >happen to be uncomfortable for many of us, and he is living by them >and preaching them wherever he goes. He not just _appears_ to be, >but he actually is 'holier than thou' in this respect. >florin I believe the point is if he wishes to "enlighten" us non zealots he should do it in a less abrasive manner. He could have been more polite about the request instead of making it ultimatum-ish. Of course how he conducts his business is his business. Right or wrong in his message he just continues to rub people the wrong way with his apparent ungraceful social skills. This may be the first interaction with RMS for many and he appears to be doing more damage to his reputation than good. Maybe that is his intent so as to spark more conversations, if so he is doing a very good job. Perhaps though his comments/intention were just misunderstood, or maybe he was in a rush with his reply and therefore did not put full thought and analysis as we are into his words, people do make mistakes. All personal things aside, I believe changing the name is not the best choice. People have listed off good points both for and against the name change and I believe that making the name change implicitly alters the intention of the group as a whole. From reading the website and mostly lurking on this list it does not appear that the group is designed or intended to be GNU publicists or even free software publicists. Our goals do not seem to match those of RMS's. Of course some/many/all here are for the general principals that RMS is for but does that mean this specific user group is the best front to propagate the messages of RMS campaign. If people feel strongly enough about the movement RMS leads, feel free to make your own group which could share a common user base and certainly the two could co-exist with each other and have URLs and references to each other and what not. Most "distributions" contain GNU software, Linux kernel, other non-GNU free software, other non-GPL free software, and proprietary non-free software. Let's keep the TCLUG group focused on users using the software we collectively call "Linux" be it any of the GNU and non-GNU bits.