TCLUG is a decentralized organization. Several people each play a small role to pull it all together. There is the mailing list, the website, hosting, domain ownership, and planning meetings. I currently have the admin credentials to the website, but the website is hosted by Real-time, and I think Munir also manages the mailing list. I plan the meetings, with the occasional help/advice of Eric, Paul, Chris, and others. The University hosts the meetings. Brian holds alternative meetings (penguins unbound) on saturday mornings. Tony organizes Ubuntu-specific meetings. It looks like Jima has the domain. The speakers agree to speak without compensation. There is a difference between 'no leadership', and decentralized control. If there were no leadership, none of those things would get done. In some ways, it reflects the FOSS community, where everyone pitches in to help. This is also why a name change is difficult. For instance, when we update the website, will we do more than change the logo and text, such as modernize it? We've heard proposals about rewriting the website in drupal, or rails, and all sorts of fancy stuff, but who will support it? And I mean support it for many years. RIght now it is stable and well supported. From an operational point of view, If we change the name the risk of disrupting the balance that supports tclug. Yes, the switch sounds easy on paper, like most projects, but I've thought it through, and it would not be trivial. And that assumes we can reach consensus one way or another. Jeremy On Tuesday 07 October 2008 1:37:40 pm Jima wrote: > Chuck Cole wrote: > > Mike Miller wrote: > >> I am not trying to usurp any authority. > > > > There is none. There is no "group", no leadership, and no way to make > > decisions except by fiat. I think Rick Tanner's opinion is essential for > > this.. maybe a few others. Jima's role seems to me to be more > > significant than he admits. > > I'm not sure if you're implying that I'm just being modest, or what. > Facts of the matter: I didn't found TCLUG. My involvement began 2-3 > years after it happened. I have no write/edit access to > any TCLUG-branded web sites (except maybe the beer meeting page, and I > don't recall the credentials). All I have is DNS control over one, > non-primary, domain name. And maybe some sway with whoever's holding > the keys, not that I'm certain who that is these days. > I've represented the group in arguably official capacities in the > past, yes, but I haven't had time or energy to invest in over four years. > > Any further implications regarding my "role?" > > Jima > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list