On Thursday October 9 2008 12:21:06 Jima wrote: > p.daniels wrote: > > Okay, for real. I'm not gonna sit here and name names, but some people > > out there should be ashamed of their behavior. My god, there's more > > bullies in here than a junior high locker room. > > > > So here's my humble proposal. If we are in fact voting here (are we > > voting now?), then just go cast your vote in the Name Change Vote > > thread. No expository text needed, no electioneering, no nothin'. Just > > an X next to your choice will suffice. No replying to other people's > > votes with a continuation of your argument. There are like six threads > > going for that right now, pick any one of them. > > > > And people will vote, and the votes will be counted, and we'll find some > > kind of consensus here, and do (or not do) whatever the group decides to > > do (or not do). Like the grown-ups do. > > > > Seriously. This is disgusting, people. > > Judging by your last email, you might want to take your own advice, > Pete. Flamewars and thinly-veiled name-calling isn't productive, either. > > Jima > > who'd like to hope he hasn't come off as too aggressive Man, I'm trying damn hard here. But I've reached the point of disgust where I have to either say something or unsubscribe from the list. I don't really want to do that. Have I lost my temper with some folks? Yeah, I have. I don't feel unjustified in that either. I have endured personal attacks and unwelcome and insulting off-list mail showing up in my inbox and I don't like that. Especially when I have at no point declared my intentions for one side or the other. Through this whole thing, all I have jumped in to say is "please stop being assholes, people." And I don't think it's a lot to ask that people comport themselves as adults in public. If I wanted to watch a bunch of jerkoffs call each other names, I know how to find Slashdot. Would it behoove me to take my own medicine a little bit? Yeah, no doubt, and I'd very much like to do that. Does that invalidate what I'm saying? I don't think so, no. -pete, who at no point in this debate has found you aggressive in the least, so thanks for that -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20081009/fa5ffa92/attachment-0001.htm