Maybe our friends at the "U" could start a sub-group called "GNU for U". :-) Larry (I'm feeling awfully goofy today.) -----Original Message----- From: tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org [mailto:tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org] On Behalf Of Jordan Peacock Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 12:39 PM To: p.daniels Cc: tclug-list at mn-linux.org; Smith, Craig A Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Name Change Vote I'm sorry, but that is incredibly vitriolic, Pete. That may have been the intention of those who began casting votes, but as has been mentioned: it's been a relatively easy way to match votes to real people, and all people to add in any other options they feel where not included on the original 'ballot'. And again, why voting is far from 'closed', it's pretty clear which way the deck is stacked. Nothing is stopping the (at present) 4 people who prefer a different title from presenting themselves as such to Stallman, and 'redirecting' the title to the rest of the group at large. But generally it appears that either a) the majority are not keen on change or, more probably, b) they just don't care about the argument at large and want an end to it. I know I do. I don't mind pulling out all the votes from the various email conversations and putting together a Google doc that you all can view. Sounds like the meet date is the 21st, so voting should close no later than the 21st. I'll just track that and put it together, and update it periodically. But an 'alias' of the group may be the best option, for those who feel the need for a different moniker, rather than a global change. ====================== Jordan Peacock hewhocutsdown at gmail.com hewhocutsdown.blogspot.com On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 11:56 AM, p.daniels <teeahr1 at gmail.com> wrote: On Thursday October 9 2008 11:37:16 Eric F Crist wrote: > On Oct 9, 2008, at 11:28 AM, Smith, Craig A wrote: > > Mike wrote: > >> ... compare the first category against the second two > >> ... [this] isn't a three-way contest... > > > > I agree. I want to vote for CHANGE. > > Then leave. It's been fairly obvious that the majority of those who > voted don't want change. If you don't like the group, as has been > mentioned, you're welcome to start your own. > > Not trying to be hostile, just saying. For crying out loud. You get your way and bully people into starting the vote when it was totally obvious that no one was ready to do that yet, and yet still you're not happy! You have to do the electronic equivalent of bullying people outside the polls! You know, in real votes in civilized countries, that's illegal. Because it's a douchebag thing to do. If it's so bloody obvious that "the majority... doesn't want change," then shut up and let people vote. It is unbelievable how this debate has brought out the absolute worst in so many people in this group. Grow the hell up. -pete, and when I've got to be civility cop, you know something's really wrong here _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota tclug-list at mn-linux.org http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20081009/23188446/attachment.htm