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Re: tclug-list Digest, Vol 95, Issue 8 (Michael Greenly) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 13:27:36 -0600 > From: Dan Gawarecki <dan_gawarecki at datacard.com> > To: "tclug-list at mn-linux.org" <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Any recommendations for a good laptop? > Message-ID: > <4835373F9893BF45BF3AD6612B78939813E92AE715 at EXCMS.corporate.datacard.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I have always enjoyed IBM/Lenovo ThinkPads (started with a "60" in last > century), although the T410/T420/W520 seem a little less "stiff" in their > LCD frame. The W520 has had a problem for us in that their "combo" USB > port doesn't seem to handle v2.0 devices. The "v2.0 only" USB port that > is provided works fine. > > I've been wishing for a W530 myself, mainly because it's their first > machine that will handle 32GB and also RAID 0 with 7200 RPM drives. Along > with nicer video graphics, this bumps the price to almost $2500 though. > > I've bough Sony Vaios for 2 college age children, the most recent was last > summer. Both seemed solid enough for the price (around $800-900 if I > remember correctly). > > +Dan Gawarecki+ Desk: (952) 988-1801 > (gav - a - ret - skee) Secura Lab: (952) > 988-1511 > Software Test mailto: > dan_gawarecki at datacard.com<mailto:dan_gawarecki at datacard.com> > > "Whatever you do make sure it improves society. Don't just do it for the > sake of profit." > -Dr. Joseph M. Juran, American > expert on quality (1904 - > 2008) > > > NOTICE - This message and any attachment(s) are for authorized use by the > intended recipient(s) only and may contain privileged or confidential > information. Unless you are an intended recipient, you may not use, copy, > retain, or disclose to anyone any information contained in this message > and any attachment(s). 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Re: Any recommendations for a good laptop? (Scott Raun) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 08:51:39 -0600 >> From: Scott Raun <sraun at fireopal.org> >> To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> >> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Any recommendations for a good laptop? >> Message-ID: <20121109145139.GA4733 at fireopal.org> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> I'll concur with this - Dell has two very builds. The consumer >> laptops are fragile, the business laptops are nice and durable. >> >> On Thu, Nov 08, 2012 at 10:11:45PM -0600, Michael Greenly wrote: >>> My last few machines have been Dell Latitudes. I've been happy with >>> them, >>> they're built well. My current machine is an >>> E6520<http://notebooks.com/2011/07/06/dell-latitude-e6520-review/> >>> which >>> fits you're description but they don't seem to be offering it anymore. >>> I >>> didn't look to see what replaced it. In general I have not had any >>> problems with Linux on Dell machines as long as I pay some attention >>> and >>> choose machines with intel networking and intel or nvidia graphics. >>> >>> On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 9:31 PM, Michael Moore <stuporglue at gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> > > so far the >>> > > only two I only remotely thought held up well were the Lenovos and >>> the >>> > > old Sony VAIOs (not sure about the new ones, they looks flimsy in >>> > > comparison). I like the Panasonic Toughbooks but they're painfully >>> > > expensive and the performance sucks. They have a sealed case which >>> > > means they have to get creative to keep the thing from burning up. >>> > >>> > There's a part of me that wishes I had a job that would justify the >>> > price of a Toughbook. I'll look at the Sony VAIOs, but I vaguely >>> > remember not being impressed with them. >>> > >>> > > Nothing wrong with Lenovo. I think based on your specific >>> > > requirements your 3 month wait will be well worth it. >>> > >>> > *sigh* It's going to be a long 3 months... >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Michael >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >>> > tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>> > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Michael Greenly >>> http://logic-refinery.com >> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >>> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >> >> >> -- >> Scott Raun >> sraun at fireopal.org >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >> >> End of tclug-list Digest, Vol 95, Issue 8 >> ***************************************** >> > What about system 76 laptops ? > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 20:02:31 -0600 > From: Michael Moore <stuporglue at gmail.com> > To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] tclug-list Digest, Vol 95, Issue 8 > Message-ID: > <CAFE18KWiXo92nnqCx+oAjCZoPPe7Nfx7mnCoOnREoaQCNwSEpQ at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > >>>> > There's a part of me that wishes I had a job that would justify the >>>> > price of a Toughbook. I'll look at the Sony VAIOs, but I vaguely >>>> > remember not being impressed with them. >>>> > >>>> > > Nothing wrong with Lenovo. I think based on your specific >>>> > > requirements your 3 month wait will be well worth it. > >> What about system 76 laptops ? > > Good question. I forgot about System76. Does anyone have experience > with System76? How is their quality? > > Their Gazelle Professional has similar tech specs as the Thinkpad W530 > and costs a few hundred less. > > If I would've remembered them I probably would've at least searched > around for reviews. > > - > Michael > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 20:58:56 -0600 > From: Michael Greenly <mgreenly at gmail.com> > To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] tclug-list Digest, Vol 95, Issue 8 > Message-ID: > <CAChQk+O+Ss1VdfFiwNRcS0+fSuKHSuXZKThj_dVvscOhKXZrSw at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I can say there customer service is great. Prior to my current machine I > purchased one from them. It worked great and was built well but I was > really unhappy with the keyboard layout. If you cycle through the photos > just under the banner <https://www.system76.com/laptops/model/gazp8> you > can see a close up of the number pad on the keyboard. I found it really > awkward. They stood by their, no questions asked 30 day money > back guarantee, without any hassles at all. > > On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 8:02 PM, Michael Moore <stuporglue at gmail.com> > wrote: > >> >>> > There's a part of me that wishes I had a job that would justify >> the >> >>> > price of a Toughbook. I'll look at the Sony VAIOs, but I vaguely >> >>> > remember not being impressed with them. >> >>> > >> >>> > > Nothing wrong with Lenovo. I think based on your specific >> >>> > > requirements your 3 month wait will be well worth it. >> >> > What about system 76 laptops ? >> >> Good question. I forgot about System76. Does anyone have experience >> with System76? How is their quality? >> >> Their Gazelle Professional has similar tech specs as the Thinkpad W530 >> and costs a few hundred less. >> >> If I would've remembered them I probably would've at least searched >> around for reviews. >> >> - >> Michael >> _______________________________________________ >> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >> > > > > -- > Michael Greenly > http://logic-refinery.com > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20121109/2b52298f/attachment.html> > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn- The system 76 keyboards look similar to the mac style. I really like short key travel. I have a couple kinesis boards with good keys but long vertical travel length. emperor Linux has some really high end laptops. Has anyone ever used one? If by chance anyone has some quality information on learning grub 2 and system D I would appreciate some links. And on an off topic but on topic note when I pass my Lpic 1 I am thinking of working with a few people on writing a work book that will prepare people for the LPIC. The books are not enough to pass in my opinion. I think that the door for entry into the Linux world is only cracked open to a few people. The test is geared for people with a year of Linux admin experience. Getting that year of admin experience is tough when your completing your degree and working help desk for a mostly windows environment. Feedback is appreciated. ,Ron