I've tested all the above (for Macworld: <A HREF="http://www.macworld.org">http://www.macworld.org</A>, search reviews for "ISDN"), as well as the following: Interjet (actually an encapsulated BSD system with external ISDN TA but includes lots of services, including firewall) Kentrox Pacesetter Vicom Internet Gateway (Mac software that interfaces to an ISDN TA) Webramp Cisco just doesn't get it <grin>. The Netopia is actually pretty good, as is the PaceSetter, but they don't seem to progress with new features very well. The Interjet is interseting as a strictly-Internet solution, but requires that the ISP be in on the deal (the unit self-configures over an analog phone line). VIG is nicely done if you need a DMZ and have a spare mac lying around. The Webramp is just a kind of minimalist thing. In the end, Pipelines beat out everyone for versatility, features, and support (try to find the mailing list for Cisco ISDN gear ;). -mel beckman ++ Ascend Users Mailing List ++ To unsubscribe: send unsubscribe to ascend-users-request@bungi.com To get FAQ'd: <<A HREF="http://www.nealis.net/ascend/faq">http://www.nealis.net/ascend/faq</A>> </PRE> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <HR> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg11449.html">(ASCEND) P75 <-> P75</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg11447.html">(ASCEND) Using wddialout to troubleshoot excessive dialing</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg11408.html">(ASCEND) NAT BRI routers - How many are there?</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg11402.html">(ASCEND) Random momentary routing failures</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="maillist.html#11450"><STRONG>Main</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thrd266.html#11450"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> </BODY> </HTML>