After this upgrade, I could call anyone except the 5-digit Centrex ISDN BRI's. Didn't have to dial 9 to get outside the Centrex. It acted just as if I didn't have centrex at all. So I called PacBell and they watched me make a few 5-digit calls to some customers and noticed that I wasn't setting the 'Private' bit/flag in the 'Network Specific Flag' (this is their term) of the Q.931 packet. Well, I remembered there was a RADIUS attribute that might be worth trying, so I played around with that and found that this set the Private flag so PacBell was happy and I could call inside the Centrex and outside as before: Ascend-PRI-Number-Type = Local-Number This worked great in 4.6Cp22 but not in 5.0Ap36. I tried all the values of Ascend-PRI-Number-Type in RADIUS and even went directly to the connection profile and tried all values of 'PRI # Type' and none worked. I flat-out was unable to call 5-digit extensions, so I called PacBell and again they never saw the Private flag being set. I backed down to 4.6p22 and all was fine again (as long as I used the Local-Number value). I also noticed that the Terminal Server 'test' command was unable to make 5-digit Centrex calls in both 4.6Cp22 and 5.0Ap36. I guess this is because there is no way to tell it the call type? I assume these RADIUS values are supposed to set some flag in the Q.931 packet somewhere, so it would seem that one of these guys isn't setting that darn Private flag: VALUE Ascend-PRI-Number-Type Intl-Number 1 VALUE Ascend-PRI-Number-Type National-Number 2 VALUE Ascend-PRI-Number-Type Local-Number 4 VALUE Ascend-PRI-Number-Type Abbrev-Number 5 If PacBell is going to do more ripping out of bootleg workarounds, there are going to be a lot of unhappy Ascend customers who are running Centrex ISDN shops... -earlw >From: Kevin Smith <kevin@ascend.com> > >You're dialing out with the MAX then ? > >I wonder if they mean that the call-by-call parameter should be set to >1...maybe it was in your earlier setup....? > >At 10:50 PM 12/16/97 -0800, Earl Wallace wrote: >> >>We were running 4.6Cp22 on our Max 2000 and decided to jump over to >>5.0Ap36 but had to go back to 4.6Cp22 after we could not call any of >>our Centrex ISDN customers with 5.0Ap36. >> >>To avoid PacBell per-minute charges, we must dial the Centrex >>extensions with 5-digits (it can vary depending on your need). >>We had the PacBell Tech Support folks watch us make some Centrex >>calls and they did not see us set the 'Private' flag in the call >>setup. This flag has to be set for Centrex calls (if the Private >>flag isn't set, it assumes you are making a Public call). In the >>past this has not been a problem before because PacBell hacked around >>this 'Private' flag requirement, but they don't do that any more >>since SBC has declared the switches will run unhacked code, which >>I guess is a GoodThing ;-) 4.6Cp22 set the Private flag, 5.0Ap36 >>does not. >> >>Anyone else doing Centrex calls to their customers on a DMS-100 in >>PacBell-Land with 5.0Ap36? >> >>I have reported the problem to Ascend but haven't heard back from them >>on this particular issue... >> >>P.S. - Other than this Private flag problem, we would very happy with >> 5.0Ap36. > >Kevin --- Earl Wallace [earlw@walltech.com] Wallace Technical Communications V: 650-938-1352 F: 650-961-9151 <A HREF="http://www.walltech.com">http://www.walltech.com</A> ++ Ascend Users Mailing List ++ To unsubscribe: send unsubscribe to ascend-users-request@bungi.com To get FAQ'd: <<A HREF="http://www.nealis.net/ascend/faq">http://www.nealis.net/ascend/faq</A>> </PRE> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <STRONG>Follow-Ups</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A HREF="msg11786.html">Re: (ASCEND) Centrex Calls with 5.0Ap36 (Private/Public Flags)</A></STRONG></LI> <UL> <LI><EM>From</EM>: Andre Beck <beck@ibh-dd.de></LI> </UL> <LI><STRONG><A HREF="msg11772.html">Re: (ASCEND) Centrex Calls with 5.0Ap36 (Private/Public Flags)</A></STRONG></LI> <UL> <LI><EM>From</EM>: Matt Holdrege <matt@ascend.com></LI> </UL> </UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A HREF="msg11754.html">Re: (ASCEND) Centrex Calls with 5.0Ap36 (Private/Public Flags)</A></STRONG></LI> <UL> <LI><EM>From</EM>: Kevin Smith <kevin@ascend.com></LI> </UL> </UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <HR> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg11757.html">RE: (ASCEND) Pipe75 dialing into Courier I-modem @128k</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg11755.html">(ASCEND) Pipeline 5.1A with firewall</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg11754.html">Re: (ASCEND) Centrex Calls with 5.0Ap36 (Private/Public Flags)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg11772.html">Re: (ASCEND) Centrex Calls with 5.0Ap36 (Private/Public Flags)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="mail2.html#11758"><STRONG>Main</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thrd280.html#11758"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> </BODY> </HTML>