now that i think about it about a month ago i upgraded a pipeline 50 remotely from 5.0B and it too lost its settings. has anyone had similar experience with 5.0B? Leon McCalla Netrox Networking Services leon@netrox.net </PRE> <PRE> BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:McCalla;Leon FN:Leon McCalla ORG:Netrox;Network TITLE:Network Engineer TEL;WORK;VOICE:305-374-3031 TEL;WORK;VOICE:305-738-0326 TEL;PAGER;VOICE:305-738-0326 TEL;WORK;FAX:305-358-4114 ADR;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:;;100 South Biscayne Blvd=0D=0ASuite 1201;Miami;FL;33131;USA LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:100 South Biscayne Blvd=0D=0ASuite 1201=0D=0AMiami, FL 33131=0D=0AUSA URL: URL:<A HREF="http://www.netrox.net">http://www.netrox.net</A> EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:leon@netrox.net REV:19971229T180429Z END:VCARD </PRE> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <HR> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg11995.html">(ASCEND) Re: b2.p75_5.1Ap8</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg11991.html">Re: (ASCEND) Delicated Ports and VPN using Max4048</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg12013.html">Re: (ASCEND) Multiple logins...</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg11995.html">(ASCEND) Re: b2.p75_5.1Ap8</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="maillist.html#11994"><STRONG>Main</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thrd290.html#11994"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> </BODY> </HTML>