But you don't which is the problem. I have raised this on several occasions with Ascend and look forward to a fix. This is also a problem on the P130 router when trying to use ISDN to back up a Leased Line. LQM dosen't seem to do anything on a Nailed channel and the Ascend router will dumbly sit their beleiving that a Nailed channel is up even though there has been no traffic on it for days. According to an Ascend engineer this isn't what LQM is for. This urgently needs to be fixed. Paul -- Paul Harrington Networks Department Demon Internet Ltd ++ Ascend Users Mailing List ++ To unsubscribe: send unsubscribe to ascend-users-request@bungi.com To get FAQ'd: <<A HREF="http://www.shore.net/~dreaming/ascend-faq">http://www.shore.net/~dreaming/ascend-faq</A>> or <<A HREF="ftp://ftp.shore.net/members/dreaming/ascend-faq.txt">ftp://ftp.shore.net/members/dreaming/ascend-faq.txt</A>> </PRE> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <HR> <STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A HREF="msg01166.html">RE: (ASCEND) Nailed line status</A></STRONG></LI> <UL> <LI><EM>From</EM>: Kenneth Packert <kpackert@ascend.om.bungi.com></LI> </UL> </UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <HR> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01171.html">(ASCEND) Static routes to an ATMP tunnel</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01159.html">Re: (ASCEND) Re: MAX Java Configurator confounder</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01166.html">RE: (ASCEND) Nailed line status</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01362.html">RE: (ASCEND) Nailed line status</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="mail8.html#01169"><STRONG>Main</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thrd38.html#01169"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> </BODY> </HTML>