Dave> Bruce, OSPF on the Maxen is 80% implemented. The 20% that is Dave> not deals with STUB areas and more complex, yet very Dave> necessary parts of the protocol. Ascend is *very* aware of Dave> the issues. Then how come in all my trouble tickets and explanations of problems they have never mentioned to *me* that it is only 80% implemented? Dave> Caveat: The entire OSFP group is all in Area 0. Not here. We have many areas. Dave> You can also simply static route these together if your Dave> network is not too complex or dynamic. Nope, we're completely dynamic. While we've switched to dynamic IP for new customers, we have hundreds of "legacy" customers that have static IP addresses, and they can log onto any of our POPs. Dave> no authentication is used (that's broken too) That's news to me as well. We've been attempting to use authentication since day one. Aren't you nervous opening up the routing in your network to your more sophisticated customers? Dave> the OSPF router options are very standard and simple in the Max Dave> config's. We do just the basics as well, and don't allow the Maxen to be any sort of designated router. Dave> Leaving out everything from a router aspect, If you have Dave> this anything close to this type of environment then I am Dave> lost as to why you are having so many problems and I hope Dave> the above may help you solve the mystery. We're attempting to run OSPF throughout the entire network. I'm not really interested in summarizing between areas using a different protocol. I guess my point is that I shouldn't have to. Where does Ascend state publicly that their OSPF implementation is known to be imcomplete? I don't even want to get into the stacking snafu. Meanwhile, the Livingston OSPF implementation has worked 100% flawlessly, since the day I installed it. I've been attempting to use OSPF and stacking on these things (features currently being advertising and marketed) for months. I'm getting very tired of this. -- Bruce Robertson, President/CEO Great Basin Internet Services, Inc. +1-702-348-7299 fax: +1-702-348-9412 ++ Ascend Users Mailing List ++ To unsubscribe: send unsubscribe to ascend-users-request@bungi.com To get FAQ'd: <<A HREF="http://www.shore.net/~dreaming/ascend-faq">http://www.shore.net/~dreaming/ascend-faq</A>> or <<A HREF="ftp://ftp.shore.net/members/dreaming/ascend-faq.txt">ftp://ftp.shore.net/members/dreaming/ascend-faq.txt</A>> </PRE> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <HR> <STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A HREF="msg05810.html">RE: (ASCEND) 5.0Ai13 Fatal Error's</A></STRONG></LI> <UL> <LI><EM>From</EM>: Dave Van Allen <dave@fast.net></LI> </UL> </UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <HR> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg05842.html">RE: (ASCEND) Hung up ALL SESSIONS</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg05810.html">RE: (ASCEND) 5.0Ai13 Fatal Error's</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg05810.html">RE: (ASCEND) 5.0Ai13 Fatal Error's</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg05812.html">RE: (ASCEND) 5.0Ai13 Fatal Error's</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="mail123.html#05811"><STRONG>Main</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thrd53.html#05811"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> </BODY> </HTML>