I've also seen this occurrence of the tone as if the modem is not being assigned. A similar CR that has been opened at Lucent is CR Created with ID: 6000541 It references the ability to dialout primarily, but has to do with the slot assignment on the T1s.

As I'm to understand the slot assignment is strictly for inbound calls and all mine were recently all slotted for slot 3. Outbound calls were then almost completely broken at that point because when the round robin use of the modems for outbound went above slot 3(of six total cards) the outbound call would not be handed a modem and the call would error with no channel avilable. I was told that the outbound is not tied to slot assignment in theory, but in 7.2.3, it is very much affected by this assignment. The temp fix was to assign a modem slot for each channel as 3,4,5,6,7,8, then repeat across all 4 Ts...so that whichever T the outbound call hit, it would have the most even chance to get an open modem on one of the six cards......I asked if I should downgrade, but they were unsure as to what release this started in....:-o

I know this spins away from your initial string of emails, but thought that the buggy nature of the slot assignment may point to Lucent's TAOS if this feature is not working as it is proposed to.....if you vary the slot assignment does it change in any way?

hope this helps

edwin_everett@cargill.com

-----Original Message-----
From: techlists@rvi.net [mailto:techlists@rvi.net]
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 4:49 PM
To: ascend-users@bungi.com
Subject: FW: RE: (ASCEND) Takes soooo long to here the first beep.

Geeze, I'm sorry...After twenty seconds or so is when the modem finally
answers...So that tone after twenty seconds is the modem answering...It just
takes an Awful amount of time to answer.  When the user hears the solid
tone, it's immediately after they dial and then the modem in the max never
does answer.  It sounds like the call was routed to the HDLC controller, but
every channel is set to slot 4...

-Daniel

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-----Original Message-----
From: Jake Messinger [mailto:jake@advamed.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 2:50 PM
To: Andy Walden
Cc: Daniel J. Vance; Ascend List
Subject: Re: (ASCEND) Takes soooo long to here the first beep.

On Wed, 29 Mar 2000, Andy Walden wrote:

> > > The solid tone is an ISDN tone. Make sure all your channels are
pointing
> > > at modems in the Max.
> >
> > I dont think thats it. The solid tone you are referring to is if you put
> > an analog phone on a digital line. If you dial an analog call into a PRI
> > line that doesnt have enough modems, you get a busy signal. Im not sure,
> > but I think you get the same thing on a CT1.
>
> No, if the call is not specifially routed to a modem, it is considered
> digital and answered digitally. Its irrelevant if its a CT1 or a PRI. If
> there are not enough modems, and ISDN signaling is not on the box you will
> get dead silence.

Ah, I remember now. You are wrong and right. On PRI, a call comes in on
the D channel, if ALL b channels are being used, then you will get a busy.
IF the RAS is capable, as is the max, and there are no more available
modems, it will return a busy code on the D channel and the caller will
also get a busy. On CT1, youll get dead silence when there ARE channels
but not enough modems. The tone 20 seconds later must be something the max
is sending out because there are no modems available.

We use PRI here so I know how they work and I guarantee you get a busy
when there are open channels but not enough modems.

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