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Re: CF: Yet another 0.84.1 problem
I think a weight limit of 4500 is quite reasonable. That is a lot of
stuff. The effect on play might be minimized if player could have a
new pickup mode specifying the gp/kg ratio of items to pick up. So a
player could say pick up everything worth it for the player at this
time. So a player needing money might still pick up chairs, but not
boulders while a well off player might set it to pick up only relatively
valuable stuff and so might not pick up clubs.
As for continuing to play a character that has found a bug, don't complain
about play balance or that the game is too easy. A player could also go
back to earlier versions, make super weapons and then still play that
character. There is a presumption that players and DMs modify existing
players to be in line with the modified play balance.
I think carrier characters and apartments are areas that game complexities
could be added to make the game harder. It does not make sense that one
char could store a large percentage of the world's powerful items without
having many of the world's great characters raiding the player's hoard.
Monsters build strongholds protected by monsters and such to protect
their items. It might be interesting to have different strongholds for
sale or rent for a player to store items with special feature that player
and members of player's party can pass stronghold's monsters and traps.
So player and friends can store stuff while others could fight their way in.
It does not make a great deal of sense that a char can safely store items
while monsters cannot.
As for carrier characters, as these are presumably low level chars with
many good items, presumably these would be prime targets for thieves. It
might be interesting to periodically have a thief of level appropriate to
the items/wealth of the character to do a steal attempt on a sleeping
character. No reason this isn't realistic. Or maybe a player can
attempt to steal from a sleeping character (a few beds to reality are
occupied by random sleeping chars) and if unsuccessful then when sleeping
char wakes up then he is told who tried to steal from him. Maybe then
different inns have different priced rooms that provide more protection
(penalties for the stealing attempts).
sdw
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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 11:36:59 +0200
From: Christian Stieber <stieber@informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Subject: CF: Yet another 0.84.1 problem
Hi,
I think there is now another problem with the 0.94.1 server.
Since my apartment wasn't added, playing on "another" (non-local)
server means there won't be any apartments. This means that, instead
of using an apartment, items have to be stored in another character
(the carrier character associated with an character). Due to the weight
restriction introduced in 0.94.1, people will now have to create a whole
army of carrier characters...
Also, 4500 is bad, but one probably has to live with it... I guess being
used to be able to pickup as much as you wanted is the real problem
here :-)
Pick up a few items, and you'll reach the 4500 very quickly. It also
prevents one from processing items quickly --- opening my bag and "get
all" takes far more than 4500 out of the bag, so the item processing
has to be done in several passes :-( I'll probably not process
boulders anymore, for obvious reasons (time/money ratio is too bad).
Once I find the key bug in 0.94.1 I'll have to check something
out... as far as I can tell from the changes file, you can still get
negative weight, although it's much more complicated now. And on one
server, where I have weight of about -800 tons, I'll still be able to
keep that weight :-)
4500 should also prevent you from picking up a huge gold nugget, although
I hope it can still be done (since it is essential in getting negative
weight, even with the 4500 limit).
Christian
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