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tclug-list Digest 16 Oct 1999 09:36:24 -0000 Issue 437
Topics (messages 9195 through 9215):
Opinion - On Gartner, GNU and Corel
9195 by: schewe@tcfreenet.org
9196 by: "Schoenhofen, Kelly" <KSchoenhofen@Carlson.com>
9197 by: Clay Fandre <cfandre@maddog.mn-linux.org>
9198 by: Clay Fandre <cfandre@maddog.mn-linux.org>
Pine 4.20
9199 by: "Ben Beuchler" <insyte@emt-p.org>
sendmail question
9200 by: barnabas@pobox.com
9202 by: ryan goldberg <rgoldber@d.umn.edu>
9206 by: "Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom" <carls@agritech.com>
9207 by: "Scott K. Johnson" <seker@uswest.net>
9213 by: ^chewie <chewie@wookimus.net>
Back to Routing!!!
9201 by: "Brian Ackermann" <brianj@subrad.com>
free 14" monitors
9203 by: "Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom" <carls@agritech.com>
TCLUG Logo
9204 by: Philip C Mendelsohn <mend0070@tc.umn.edu>
procmail
9205 by: Philip C Mendelsohn <mend0070@tc.umn.edu>
9208 by: Luke Francl <fran0382@tc.umn.edu>
9209 by: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <veldy@visi.com>
9210 by: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <veldy@visi.com>
IMAP servers -- Which one?
9211 by: "Ben Beuchler" <insyte@emt-p.org>
Undeliverable mail (fwd)
9212 by: Philip C Mendelsohn <mend0070@tc.umn.edu>
More Multia stuff...
9214 by: Robert Sinland <rsinland@means.net>
bash config files on Slackware
9215 by: Ben Beuchler <insyte@emt-p.org>
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Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 21:20:39 -0500 (CDT)
From: schewe@tcfreenet.org
To: tclug-list@mn-linux.org
MIME-Version: 1.0
Subject: Re: [TCLUG:9194] Opinion - On Gartner, GNU and Corel
On 14 Oct, Clay Fandre wrote:
> Anyone see this yet?
>
> http://www.idg.net/idg_frames/english/content.cgi?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww2.idg.com.au%2FCWT1997.nsf%2Fcwtoday%2F9A8CD41DF73CC94F4A25680A001C5F0C%3FOpenDocument&return=%2fidg_frames%2fenglish%2ffeatures%2ehtml
>
The above URL gives me document cannot be found.
--
Jon Schewe
http://eggplant.mtu.net/~jpschewe
schewe@tcfreenet.org
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From: "Schoenhofen, Kelly" <KSchoenhofen@Carlson.com>
To: "'tclug-list@mn-linux.org'" <tclug-list@mn-linux.org>
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 21:16:00 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Subject: RE: [TCLUG:9194] Opinion - On Gartner, GNU and Corel
Works perfectly fine for IE....
-----Original Message-----
From: schewe@tcfreenet.org [mailto:schewe@tcfreenet.org]
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 1999 9:21 PM
To: tclug-list@mn-linux.org
Subject: Re: [TCLUG:9194] Opinion - On Gartner, GNU and Corel
On 14 Oct, Clay Fandre wrote:
> Anyone see this yet?
>
>
http://www.idg.net/idg_frames/english/content.cgi?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww2.idg.
com.au%2FCWT1997.nsf%2Fcwtoday%2F9A8CD41DF73CC94F4A25680A001C5F0C%3FOpenDocu
ment&return=%2fidg_frames%2fenglish%2ffeatures%2ehtml
>
The above URL gives me document cannot be found.
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http://eggplant.mtu.net/~jpschewe
schewe@tcfreenet.org
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Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 21:30:30 -0500
From: Clay Fandre <cfandre@maddog.mn-linux.org>
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: tclug-list@mn-linux.org
Subject: Re: [TCLUG:9194] Opinion - On Gartner, GNU and Corel
schewe@tcfreenet.org wrote:
>
> On 14 Oct, Clay Fandre wrote:
> > Anyone see this yet?
> >
> > http://www.idg.net/idg_frames/english/content.cgi?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww2.idg.com.au%2FCWT1997.nsf%2Fcwtoday%2F9A8CD41DF73CC94F4A25680A001C5F0C%3FOpenDocument&return=%2fidg_frames%2fenglish%2ffeatures%2ehtml
> >
> The above URL gives me document cannot be found.
Here is the slashdot post:
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=99/10/14/0838249&mode=thread
>
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> schewe@tcfreenet.org
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Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 21:45:04 -0500
From: Clay Fandre <cfandre@maddog.mn-linux.org>
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: tclug-list@mn-linux.org
Subject: Re: [TCLUG:9194] Opinion - On Gartner, GNU and Corel
"Schoenhofen, Kelly" wrote:
>
> Works perfectly fine for IE....
I'm soooo sorry.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: schewe@tcfreenet.org [mailto:schewe@tcfreenet.org]
> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 1999 9:21 PM
> To: tclug-list@mn-linux.org
> Subject: Re: [TCLUG:9194] Opinion - On Gartner, GNU and Corel
>
> On 14 Oct, Clay Fandre wrote:
> > Anyone see this yet?
> >
> >
> http://www.idg.net/idg_frames/english/content.cgi?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww2.idg.
> com.au%2FCWT1997.nsf%2Fcwtoday%2F9A8CD41DF73CC94F4A25680A001C5F0C%3FOpenDocu
> ment&return=%2fidg_frames%2fenglish%2ffeatures%2ehtml
> >
> The above URL gives me document cannot be found.
>
> --
> Jon Schewe
> http://eggplant.mtu.net/~jpschewe
> schewe@tcfreenet.org
>
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From: "Ben Beuchler" <insyte@emt-p.org>
To: <tclug-list@mn-linux.org>
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 02:51:47 -0500
Message-ID: <000b01bf16e2$21a5d7c0$c23adacd@marvin>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Subject: RE: [TCLUG:9167] Pine 4.20
I haven't actually tried this one, but it was THE client on the Amiga
platform, recently ported to Linux. It's supposed to be quite nice...
http://linux.tc3net.com/gandalf/Eucalyptus.html
Ben
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nate Carlson [mailto:natecars@infiniteloop.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 7:58 PM
> To: tclug-list@mn-linux.org
> Subject: [TCLUG:9167] Pine 4.20
>
>
> Just wondering if anyone else has tried Pine 4.20 yet, and if so,
> what your opinions are. Seems pretty nice to me. One great thing is the
> configuration is a lot more organized now. Oh, by the way, speaking of
> mail clients, anyone found an X mail client with as much functionality as
> Pine yet? Everything I've tried (it has been 6 months, so there could
> be a lot better stuff now) has fallen far short..
>
> ----
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From: barnabas@pobox.com
Message-ID: <3806F8C9.974600E6@pobox.com>
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 04:50:02 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: tclug-list@mn-linux.org
Subject: [TCLUG:9175] RE: sendmail question
I would encourage you to take a look at qmail (http://www.qmail.org). When
I first began looking at configuring sendmail, it scared me, so
I implemented qmail. It was actually quite easy.
Eric
Alan Smith wrote:
> Does anyone know of an simple idiot's guide to setting up sendmail, each
> time I try to use the mini howto I end up screwing my system up.
>
> Cheers
>
> Alan
> asmith@uk.insight.com <mailto:asmith@uk.insight.com>
>
>
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From: ryan goldberg <rgoldber@d.umn.edu>
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 08:39:20 -0500 (CDT)
To: tclug-list@mn-linux.org
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.9910150831050.10676-100000@killermonkey.localdomain>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Subject: Re: [TCLUG:9175] RE: sendmail question
Looking for something to ease the pains of setting up sendmail? I use a
perl script called install-sendmail and it works great.
http://members.xoom.com/xeer/index.html
.ryan
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To: tclug-list@mn-linux.org
From: "Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom" <carls@agritech.com>
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 09:16:57 -0700
Subject: Re: [TCLUG:9175] RE: sendmail question
>I would encourage you to take a look at qmail (http://www.qmail.org). When
>I first began looking at configuring sendmail, it scared me, so
>I implemented qmail. It was actually quite easy.
qmail scared me when I looked at it. admittedly, I was a newbie (and
still am); so the need to compile the source instead of installing an RPM
was pretty intimidating.
like I said in a previous post; I just read the sendmail.cf file,
looked at some of the doco, and asked a couple of people. turns out the
setup was pretty trivial once I knew where to look.
YMMV ( a lot ).
personally, I think a heavily-commented config file is a determiner
of how easy something is to set up. smb.conf is pretty heavily commented;
giving many good examples. the RH sendmail.cf is pretty heavily commented;
so even if it uses terse terms, the comments make it understandable. the
sendmail.cf that SendmailPro generates is impossible to figure out unless
you know what you're looking at (no comments, little whitespace); but on the
other hand, SendmailPro has a GUI to write the config for you.
admittedly, you still need to understand what the options all *do*
(which is where a GUI with 'help' sections really shines); but *good*
comments down in the code make all the difference in the world. :)
Carl Soderstrom
System Administrator 307 Brighton Ave.
Minnesota DHIA Buffalo, MN
carls@agritech.com (612) 682-1091
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Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 13:07:35 -0500
From: "Scott K. Johnson" <seker@uswest.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: tclug-list@mn-linux.org
Subject: Re: [TCLUG:9175] RE: sendmail question
I personally decided on qmail - just because of all the stories I heard
about having to patch/upgrade sendmail every time a new security hole
was found.
I found the documentation that came with qmail extremely good & easy to
follow.
<disclaimer - I have no experience with sendmail, so I can't say if the
stories were true or false...>
Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom wrote:
<SNIP>
> qmail scared me when I looked at it. admittedly, I was a newbie (and
> still am); so the need to compile the source instead of installing an RPM
> was pretty intimidating.
<SNIP>
--
Scott K. Johnson
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- Contentment is yours when you find it does not come from things.
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Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 17:22:21 -0500 (CDT)
From: ^chewie <chewie@wookimus.net>
To: tclug-list@mn-linux.org
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.9910151721160.28034-100000@guinness.urw.org>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Subject: Re: [TCLUG:9175] RE: sendmail question
On Fri, 15 Oct 1999, Scott K. Johnson wrote:
SKJ >I personally decided on qmail - just because of all the
SKJ >stories I heard about having to patch/upgrade sendmail every
SKJ >time a new security hole was found.
SKJ >
SKJ >I found the documentation that came with qmail extremely
SKJ >good & easy to follow.
SKJ >
SKJ ><disclaimer - I have no experience with sendmail, so I can't
SKJ >say if the stories were true or false...>
Just make sure you have lots of RAM when running qmail. Don't get
scared when you see a lot of qmail processes; it forks like a couple
rabbits dancing in a cabbage field.
Later!
^chewie
+----------------------------------------------------+
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| ICQ: 9985127 http://wookimus.net/~chewie |
+----------------------------------------------------+
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Sport at http://wookimus.net/~chewie/truck.html
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Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 08:49:26 -0500
From: "Brian Ackermann" <brianj@subrad.com>
To: tclug-list@mn-linux.org
Mime-version: 1.0
Message-ID: <1272144761-3339637@mail.bbros.com>
Subject: Back to Routing!!!
Ok, same office, different boxen, different problem...(I've been making slow
progress with the firewall routing issue...I may post more on that later
today...)
Anyhow, now, I've got a RH5.2 system running at my office, where we have NAT
addys, and a few real ones...The box is on a real one, and internet machines
and local machines with a real addy can hit(ping, telnet, ftp, http, etc.) the
box, however, no machine on the NAT address network is able to....
I'm almost sure this is an easy one, but could someone please offer up a
suggestion or two for me to try...?
Thanks in advance...
Brian
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To: Linux@scalug.org, tclug-list@mn-linux.org, tcsa@tcsa.org
From: "Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom" <carls@agritech.com>
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 08:49:21 -0700
Subject: free 14" monitors
we have a half dozen or so old 14" compaq monitors we're throwing out.
they won't do better than 640x480 under X (I think I got one of them
to go 800x600 under windows; but it took some trying); and you'll still
probably be able to read the win3.11 desktop they were previously running;
but they're plenty good for text mode.
I'll probably bring 1 or 2 to the next SCALUG & TCLUG meetings,
unless they've disappeared by then.
I live in Buffalo; so I may be a bit far from most people. Bribes
will be accepted for delivery, tho. :)
Carl Soderstrom
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Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 11:04:28 -0500 (CDT)
From: Philip C Mendelsohn <mend0070@tc.umn.edu>
To: tclug-list@mn-linux.org
Message-Id: <Pine.SOL.4.10.9910151101560.9347-100000@garnet.tc.umn.edu>
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Subject: Re: [TCLUG:9176] TCLUG Logo
On Thu, 14 Oct 1999, Chris Kesler wrote:
> I thought that was pretty good for a clean joke. Although we all know
> that, in practice, penguins do not fall down stairs.
Actually, that makes me think of something. Once a penguin puts on the
Sorel's that were mentioned, he can *NEVER* take them off.
Why? Because then he'd have to re-boot.
Phil
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Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 11:06:17 -0500 (CDT)
From: Philip C Mendelsohn <mend0070@tc.umn.edu>
To: tclug-list@mn-linux.org
Message-Id: <Pine.SOL.4.10.9910151105010.9347-100000@garnet.tc.umn.edu>
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Subject: Re: [TCLUG:9185] procmail
On Thu, 14 Oct 1999, Luke Francl wrote:
>
> Hi, I set up some basic procmail filters for use on garnet a while back. I
> used the procmail FAQ to help. It's a good reference; do a search on
> Google for it.
>
> But here's the basics.
<SNIP>
Thanks! This and the other replies are more than enough for me to get
myself into trouble.
Phil
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Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 13:14:21 -0500 (CDT)
From: Luke Francl <fran0382@tc.umn.edu>
To: tclug-list@mn-linux.org
Message-Id: <Pine.SOL.4.10.9910151311450.14330-100000@garnet.tc.umn.edu>
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Subject: Re: [TCLUG:9185] procmail
While we're on the subject of procmail, I've got a question for the
experts.
I'd like to set up a filter which redirects mail from a list of people to
a folder. Here's what I have now:
# Work filter -- $HOME/.procmail/.co-workers contains the names of coworkers
# to match against.
COWORKERS=`cat $HOME/.procmail/.co-workers`
:0:
* $^From.*${COWORKERS}
INBOX.work
I thought this would work, but when there is more than one email address
in COWORKERS, it doesn't.
Does anyone know how I could do this?
Thanks,
Luke
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From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <veldy@visi.com>
To: <tclug-list@mn-linux.org>
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 14:23:43 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Subject: Re: [TCLUG:9185] procmail
The addresses must look something like this:
*From:.*(user@x.org|user2@y.org|user3@z.org).*
So, you could use a perl script to put it in that format instead of using
'cat'.
Tom Veldhouse
veldy@visi.com
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From: Luke Francl <fran0382@tc.umn.edu>
To: <tclug-list@mn-linux.org>
Sent: Friday, October 15, 1999 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: [TCLUG:9185] procmail
> While we're on the subject of procmail, I've got a question for the
> experts.
>
> I'd like to set up a filter which redirects mail from a list of people to
> a folder. Here's what I have now:
>
> # Work filter -- $HOME/.procmail/.co-workers contains the names of
coworkers
> # to match against.
>
> COWORKERS=`cat $HOME/.procmail/.co-workers`
>
> :0:
> * $^From.*${COWORKERS}
> INBOX.work
>
> I thought this would work, but when there is more than one email address
> in COWORKERS, it doesn't.
>
> Does anyone know how I could do this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Luke
>
>
>
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From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <veldy@visi.com>
To: <tclug-list@mn-linux.org>
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 14:28:00 -0500
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Subject: Re: [TCLUG:9185] procmail
Correction.
^From:.*(user@x.org|user2@y.org|user3@z.org).*
Tom Veldhouse
veldy@visi.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Thomas T. Veldhouse <veldy@visi.com>
To: <tclug-list@mn-linux.org>
Sent: Friday, October 15, 1999 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: [TCLUG:9185] procmail
> The addresses must look something like this:
>
> *From:.*(user@x.org|user2@y.org|user3@z.org).*
>
> So, you could use a perl script to put it in that format instead of using
> 'cat'.
>
> Tom Veldhouse
> veldy@visi.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Luke Francl <fran0382@tc.umn.edu>
> To: <tclug-list@mn-linux.org>
> Sent: Friday, October 15, 1999 1:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [TCLUG:9185] procmail
>
>
> > While we're on the subject of procmail, I've got a question for the
> > experts.
> >
> > I'd like to set up a filter which redirects mail from a list of people
to
> > a folder. Here's what I have now:
> >
> > # Work filter -- $HOME/.procmail/.co-workers contains the names of
> coworkers
> > # to match against.
> >
> > COWORKERS=`cat $HOME/.procmail/.co-workers`
> >
> > :0:
> > * $^From.*${COWORKERS}
> > INBOX.work
> >
> > I thought this would work, but when there is more than one email address
> > in COWORKERS, it doesn't.
> >
> > Does anyone know how I could do this?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Luke
> >
> >
> >
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From: "Ben Beuchler" <insyte@emt-p.org>
To: "TCLUG-List" <tclug-list@mn-linux.org>
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 15:07:09 -0500
Message-ID: <000001bf1748$dc7e1d80$c23adacd@marvin>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Subject: IMAP servers -- Which one?
Does anyone have any experience with the IMAP servers that are available? I
would like to set one up for my own use. However, I can't seem to find much
(any) info comparing the Cyrus to the UW server. Are there more I should be
considering? Any recommendations between those two?
Gracias,
Ben
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Subject: Two simple Q's
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I'm looking for a copy of wterm, but the ftp link on freshmeat is no
good. Anyone know another one?
Also, I forgot where I once saw a list of colors available in X, like for
setting term bg and fg -- you know, "Wheat", and "Slate Grey", and
whatever. Anyone recall where that might be on most distros?
Thanks!
Phil
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Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 17:53:03 -0500
From: Robert Sinland <rsinland@means.net>
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Subject: Re: [TCLUG:7575] More Multia stuff...
Ben Beuchler wrote:
> Anywho, I've been researching drive options for my lovely new Multia and it
> appears that I can go one of four ways: 2.5" IDE, 3.5" IDE, 2.5" SCSI, 3.5"
> SCSI. As I've read on several pages that the 3.5" options tend to generate
> more heat than it can handle, I'm leaning towards the 2.5" IDE drive. There
> certainly seem to be plenty around for <$75 in sizes more then large enough
> to be useful. I've also found a couple of suppliers for the elusive 44-pin
> IDE cables necessary for the smaller drives. There does appear to be a
> rather kludgy way to make it work with normal 40-pin IDE, but I dislike
> kludgy. The OEM floppy drives are available for $39. The same distributor
> also carries the OEM brackets designed to mount a 2.5" drive in the front
> bays. Anyone found out anything about other (cheaper) models of FDDs that
> might fit?
>
> Incidentally, there also seems to be more options then the standard 640X480
> VGA graphics. I've found a couple of charts listing all of the possible
> jumper settings and there resulting graphics modes.
>
> I can dig up the links for any of the above pieces of info, if anyone is
> interested...
>
> Question: Since I don't have access to an external SCSI CD-ROM, can anyone
> point me to information on performing an FTP install of Linux? I should
> have my DSL line in by the time I have my Multia up and running. If not,
> I'll just set up an FTP server on my LAN...
>
I was just wondering how it all worked out for you, and would like to see any
links you
have found for hardware.
Due to a shipping glitch I _just today_ received my Multia. can't beleive how
small it is!
BTW they do have more, but I see that they are now selling Bare Bones units for
$79
The PIA delivery dates keep getting pushed back, probbably didn't help that RAM
prices
have recently trippled.
RS
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From: Ben Beuchler <insyte@emt-p.org>
To: tclug-list@mn-linux.org
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 04:24:31 -0500
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Subject: bash config files on Slackware
After having my hand held by RedHat, I figured it was time to jump off the deep
end and try Slackware 4.0. It's running quite nicely and it's CERTAINLY not
holding my hand!
However, I seem to be having some difficulty with the normal shell config
scripts. To start with, ~/.bashrc wouldn't be processed unless I added it to
/etc/profile. Isn't that supposed to be run whether /etc/profile exists or
not? It certainly wasn't called by /etc/profile in Red Hat.
Second, I'm getting some strange environment settings of which I cannot find
the source (some aliases and environment variables like PS1). They are not set
in /etc/profile or my .bashrc and .bash_profile doesn't even exist!
Are there any other files that are executed at the start up of bash that could
be messing things up? I've even tried switching to /etc and running "grep
alias *" and haven't found the offending scripts...
Confused,
Ben