Re: [TCLUG:18492] AMD vs. Intel

[<Nick.T.Reinking@supervalu.com>]

Ummm... the VIA "4-in-1" drivers are integrated right into
Windows 2000.  I'm running my ASUS P3V4X (VIA Apollo
Pro133A) board on Windows 2000, and I have ATA/66,
USB, etc, etc, without any problems what-so-ever.

I used to remember looking at VIA's website before, and seeing
"No updates needed for Windows 2000 as all drivers are
on the Windows 2000 installation CD."  They have new updated
AGP/USB/chipset drivers these days, but I ran Windows 2000 for a long
time (at a high speed) with just the default Windows 2000 drivers.

But yeah, the two VIA chipsets supporting UDMA66 (the KX133 and
Apollo Pro133A) work great with Windows 2000, and I'm running
just fine myself in UDMA Mode 4.

Nick Reinking







veldy@veldy.net, on 06/01/2000 12:57:46 PM
To: tclug-list@mn-linux.org @ PMDF
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Subject: Re: [TCLUG:18492] AMD vs. Intel

The AMD750 and AMD751 chipsets did not work well with AGP 4x and Nvidia
cards.  I am not sure how other cards were affected, but Nvidia was the
worst hit.  Many MoBos use the VIA chipsets for AGP - so it wasn't an issue
with them.  It had nothing to do with the Athlon processor itself.

BTW - I will never buy another machine with VIA chips in it.  They don't
release timely code or respond to email from support.  I NEED to get the VIA
IDE-BUSMASTERING drivers for Windows 2000 (for work) and they STILL don't
have any working drivers available.  The drivers shipping in Windows 2000
don't support UDMA66 on a large number of drives and chipset combinations
(VIA chipsets of course).

FreeBSD 4.0 has full support for the same chips - and I believe that the
Linux 2.4 kernel will work properly for them as well.  I can say that early
2.3.99pre kernels still dropped my UDMA66 drive to PIO mode.

Tom Veldhouse
veldy@veldy.net

----- Original Message -----
From: Eric Hillman <ehillman@cccu.com>
To: <tclug-list@mn-linux.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 11:41 AM
Subject: RE: [TCLUG:18492] AMD vs. Intel


> > If you're big into 3D, I still recommend Intel, because 3D card drivers
tend
> > to support SSE a bit better than 3dNow! instructions.  However, for a
> > nice powerful machine that won't break the bank, go with Athlon.
>
>
> Speaking of 3D: I don't know if this is still an issue, but a while back
there
> were some problems with AMD cards & mobos not supporting AGP at high bus
rates -
> 2x or 3x...  I'm a little fuzzy on the details, unfortunately.  AMD was
being
> awfully quiet about this issue at the time.
>
> In my experience, Intel has always been the more stable & high-performance
> gaming/3D platform, Mhz for Mhz.  For a plain ol' boring vanilla
workstation,
> AMD gets you a little more bang for the buck, though.
>
> This is all, of course, barring overclocking, dual-Celeron setups and
other
> kinkiness.
>
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