The CVS server is backup, might have to wait for DNS to update. I am having a problem still when I go to "update -d" on my local copy. I get "permission denied". Any ideas? -- Bob Tanner <tanner@real-time.com> | Phone : (612)943-8700 http://www.real-time.com | Fax : (612)943-8500 Key fingerprint = 6C E9 51 4F D5 3E 4C 66 62 A9 10 E5 35 85 39 D9