On my server the bots don't leave (ever), you can get more players by joining before all the bots start up but they just don't leave. I guess Nick's server is his patch to the CVS of the time and something has changed since then that stops the bots quitting. Perhaps Nick could try a server fresh out of CVS? I tried messing about with the debug, debugTarget and debugLevel variables in pret.c but I've no idea what I'm doing and cant get stop_a_robot() to put out any information as to if its called, and how far it goes if it is. If you want to look at my server its on eurotwinks.netrek.org 2592 Sorry I couldnt fathom how to debug, same goes for configure.in, learning to program a proper language is always on my list of things to do but.... Dave _______________________________________________ vanilla-devel mailing list vanilla-devel at us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-devel