On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 04:32:49AM -0400, Mark Mielke wrote: > > This is entirely FUD. > > *Flex* is completely open as of release 3, and this is the programming > language you would use to write your Flash applications in. Who cares > whether the player is open source or not - as long as it is freely > available? Well... I care. I'm locked into closed technologies quite often and frankly I don't care to be locked into even more. But that's me. Others can, and will, think differently. As far as Flex being open or close I will be happy to take your word that it is open; I don't touch the thing and wouldn't know the status if it jumped up and bit me. But the player isn't :) > Flash has been stable for 32-bit for many years, and stable for 64-bit > for several years. Most Facebook applications that people waste their > time on all day long are written in Flash. Why shouldn't people be > wasting their time playing Netrek instead of Bejeweled Blitz? FUD? I can trivially document memory leaks in FF using Flash. I can trivially document CPU utilization issues with Flash. All with the official adobe bits. A rapid search shows that I am by no means the only such person on the net experiencing similar behavior, Mark. Sorry, but I just can not consider this stable behavior. Perhaps my work-flow differs from most other people and leads to this type of behavior? That's possible. I have 53 tabs open in a single FF instance at the moment; and the browser process has been alive for a long time. I also have no tabs with Flash content on them at the moment :) If I did, I would have had to restart the browser by now. As far as wasting their time? I don't care what people do with their time; I don't see these people playing netrek, however. Perhaps I am just a realist and don't live in a world of pipe-dreams that some other list members do. By all means, put together a netrek client in Flash. I'll bet you real green dollars right now that reiterates my original statement that it will just be a waste of time with little no no positive gain. Actually, it would be a bet that I'd be happy to lose as my losing would be good for the game. > Perhaps you are talking about the re-writes of Flash by the free / open > source community that barely work? No, of course not. > Another valuable reason to learn Flex, is that it can open job > opportunities. Many companies are writing their client applications in > Flex instead of Java these days as the Flex tools for mocking user > interfaces is just cuter and more productive, and the Flex capabilities > for making fancy graphics easily is just nice. I can't argue this as I have no experience from a development standpoint. I'm really not trying to get into a long-winded discussion about this; it is quite apparent we disagree and I'm fine with that :) I did, however, take offense at the FUD label. You may not agree with my statements but I'm not in the habit of posting FUD. I stand by my statements that Flash is not stable; that Flash has memory leaks on multiple target platforms; and that Flash is a cpu hog especially over the course of time. In any event, I'm calling it a night. John -- Never, never be afraid to do what's right, especially if the well-being of a person or animal is at stake. Society's punishments are small compared to the wounds we inflict on our soul when we look the other way. -- Martin Luther King Jr. (1929-1968), civil-rights leader -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mailman.us.netrek.org/pipermail/netrek-dev/attachments/20100316/1343f46e/attachment.pgp