I don't think the Wingman Extreme D3D is really that big of a footprint. Compared to the MS Sindwinder FF, it's rather quite small. Though I do agree with you that the bigger the base, the less attractive it is to me in desktop space. Personally, I'm not that big of a fan of FF joysticks. I don't recall N64 having a joystick. Is that just a single/dual button joystick? Or more along the lines of a game pad with a control stick instead of the movement buttons? Kent Schumacher wrote: > > My son has the force feedback and I have the regular. Both work > connected via serial or USB. Force Feedback was not working the > last time we surfed the net looking for it, but it seemed to be > in the works. > > I'm not sure I like these huge joysticks though. I think I want > to get nintendo 64 like joystick and see how that works. > > Kent