IMHO, the reason most of these people don't use Linux is because they don't know how. And the argument that we shouldn't teach them because they don't know how is a bit circular. We've used Linux for several years at Heritage Christian Academy and they have picked it up pretty well. It's based on this experience that we hoped we could share with the rest of the community. It is true, that there is a learning curve for Linux. There is a curve to setting up an NT server as well. That curve is becoming much faster for Linux, and much slower for Windows. I think Linux is becoming much more of an attractive option to these cost conscious organizations. --- Ryan Ware <rware at interplastic.com> wrote: > Not to be a wet blanket, but most of those people being sucked into > support > roles are sucked into a mostly or completely Microsoft environment. > Small > businesses typically have not been your *nix users for a number of > reasons. > Originally Unix was costly, Microsoft was cheaper. Microsoft was > easier to > use. Only recently has there been desktop ready for the average user a > cheap Unix variant (Linux). You'd be better off helping them with > their > Windows skills and teaching them how about the possibility of saving > some > dough by using Open Office instead of office, on Windows. Then later > show > them some of the other things Open Source and Linux have going for them > that > might allow them to save more money. > > One thing to consider too. How successful in these businesses will a > "switch" campaign be received or even useful to them if they already > have > say an NT environment in place with exchange that runs acceptably, that > they > are comfortable with and don't need to upgrade? > > Your class might be better for people that don't have much invested in > an > existing environment. I don't see OS/Linux as a natural fit for these > small > companies unless they just hire their adminning out, as a lot of them > won't > have full time "IT" guys anyway. The person likely to be stuck in this > support role is looking for the easiest way out, not necessarily the > most > technically superior because he has "real" job duties too besides > keeping > the computers running. > > Ryan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Wayne Johnson > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org; nonprofit_tech_talk at communityforum.net > Cc: dcoats at mlla.org > Sent: 10/5/03 12:42 AM > Subject: [TCLUG] Using Linux for Small Businesses & Non-profits Class > > My partner and I have been tossing around the idea of having a class on > "Using Linux for Small Businesses & Non-profits". The focus will be > for > the accidental techies that get sucked (imagine a black hole) into the > job > in their respective organizations. > > So far, I've been making a list of subjects to include. Here's just a > small start: > > Computer Basics (what is a CPU, memory, hard disk, I/O, video card, > etc.) > Installing Linux (we have a lab with ~20 PCs, might as well give them > some > behind the wheel). > Access Control (passwd, group, file system security) > GUI vs Command line (including a tutorial in Vi) > > Available packages: > OpenOffice > Samba > E-mail Serving > Printer Configuration > Networking (DHCP, Routing, Subnets, etc.) > Apache, PHP, MySQL, Postgres, Perl, etc. > Firewalling & Gateways (SNAT) & the Internet > Backups > > Hardware: > Modems > CD-RW > > At this rate, It'll be a 4 year course. > > Any suggestions? Frequent subjects at InstallFests? Text books? > Remember, some of these folks are pretty low end techies, so simpler is > probably better. > > Maybe we can tie the class in with an installfest? > > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list at mn-linux.org > https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > ___________________________________ > Nonprofit_tech_talk mailing list is a service of MAP for Nonprofits > with partial funding support from the Greater Twin Cities United Way > and Tech Foundation. 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