> -----Original Message----- > From: Sam MacDonald [mailto:smac at visi.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 7:57 AM > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Subject: Re: [TCLUG] Netstat Segmentation Fault > > > I would feel better if people would do what they should, not > what they > want to do. Instead of helping people they try to hurt people. These > are not people displaying any moral or ethical grounds for > what they do. > > A criminal is a criminal, they are scum and should be dealt with as > such. I've worked through to many virus and DOS attacks to consider > the people that do this kind of thing as any less criminal. > > If they want to tell me a security hole exists they can call > me. When Yup. No place for gray hats. > they attack a system it is a criminal act, end of story. Find > them, toss > them in jail, and let buba have their ass. > > The problem IS the rootkit, it enables a crime to be > committed. Rootkit > has NO legitimate reason to exist, it exists to cause damage to a > computer system. Drug dealers do the same thing they enable criminal Really sir. I only have the nuclear bomb plans in the event that I should find one and have to diffuse it. I had no intentions... I guess my view is the truly skilled cracker would have access to rootkits or could build their own in the same way that gun control would only work against law abiding citizens. My problem is with the general availability to teenage wannabees. How do you get the knowledge to SA's without making it public to the teenage wannabees - good question. > behavior for profit. And NO it's not advertised as a way to check the > security of your own system. The intent is to cause other people > problems, because poor Johnny didn't get to watch TV that one > Saturday > when he was 10. Let Johnny have lots of time in prison for > his actions. > > Sam. > > > Matthew S. Hallacy wrote: > > > > > > >Would you feel safer if only the criminals knew where to get > bolt cutters > >and guns? The problem is not the rootkit, it's the hole they > used to get > >into the system to begin with. You should always perform a > clean install > >after an intrusion, a rootkit just gives you a harder boot > in the rear. > > > > > > > >>Sam > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list at mn-linux.org > https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list at mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list