While I support GNU, and recognize the significance of associating GNU with Linux, I do not think changing the groups name is necessary, nor a good idea. First, unless someone is specifically talking about the Linux Kernel, the term "Linux" has become a term which encompasses the kernel as well as supporting GNU software. I know by textbook definition Linux refers to the kernel only, but I think its safe to say that by the popular consensus, people have redefined (coined if you will) the term to include the entire OS. I would submit an argument saying that by using the word "Linux", people are (most of the time) referring to the GNU/Linux package. Second, the term LUG has its own, well known definition. GLUG is confusing, unknown to people, as as stated in my first argument I feel that the term Linux implies the inclusion of GNU software. As stated before, KISS. Just my two cents, I am open to friendly debate on the issue! Cheers, Andy On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 4:31 AM, Chuck Cole <cncole at earthlink.net> wrote: > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org [mailto: > tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org]On Behalf Of Mike Miller > > Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 2:02 AM > > To: TCLUG List > > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] TC*G*LUG > > > > > > On Mon, 6 Oct 2008, Chuck Cole wrote: > > > > > The KISS version of the name works for most folks... > > > and was what was chosen first, > > > and was chosen by folks who knew of Stallman (etc) when they > chose. > > > > Well the first name used for the system was GNU, wasn't it? Then Linus > > wrote a kernel and named it Linux, after himself, and said that it was > > "nothing" without GNU. So why don't we call the system that includes the > > Linus' kernel GNU, which was its original name? > > > > The fact that many people call it Linux doesn't imply that we shouldn't > > call it GNU/Linux. The name serves a useful purpose by promoting an > > ideal. > > > > Mike > > > KISS.. otherwise we must give credit to von Neumann, and Amazing Grace (et > al) whose contributions made GNU possible and are > essential today for any instance or artifact of GNU or Linux that runs. > Whenever we give a name, we shorten the full etymology and > genealogy for various reasons that are best approximated as KISS. Clarify > in a website in a history paragraph so it's duly noted, > but don't expect everyone to change speech or writing in everyday usage. > Life and language are full of examples of KISS terminology > or nicknames, etc. How about Neumann-GNU-Linux... to remember and give > credit to the top ten or twenty whose works are about > equally essential ? > > > Chuck > > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20081007/949abb2f/attachment-0001.htm