> There is none. There is no "group", no leadership, and no way to make Chuck, Some people do volunteer to organize meetings, and it can take a lot of work depending on the presentation. Can you bring yourself to acknowedge that? Jeremy On Tuesday 07 October 2008 12:48:52 pm Chuck Cole wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org > > [mailto:tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org]On Behalf Of Mike Miller Sent: > > Tuesday, October 07, 2008 11:15 AM > > To: TCLUG List > > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] TC*G*LUG > > > > On Tue, 7 Oct 2008, Chuck Cole wrote: > > > More credit is due von Neumann than GNU in any case. > > > > More credit for what? Not for GNU or GNU/Linux or Linux, or whatever you > > want to call it. That would be like saying that the credit for > > Michelangelo's great stone sculptures should go more to the inventor of > > the chisel than to Michelangelo. That is a bit of an exaggeration but > > you'll get my point. > > It's way too much a stretch of the fact I pointed out. Non-Harvard, non > von Neumann machines are responsible for much of the chaos that Amazing > Grace's work toward portability (via COBOL) eventually achieved. > Stallman's work would not exist or run without those developments as > specific parts of host environments for his stuff. Not a chisel, it's the > physical art and also a canvas that provides the reality that Stallman (et > alii) can do their unreal virtual stuff upon. Without a realization of von > Neuman's work as a host, Stallman's has no existence at all. That deserves > as much credit if not more but it's the real stuff, not some virtual > reality :-) > > > Thank you. > > Certainly welcome and deserving for that. > > > I am not trying to usurp any authority. > > There is none. There is no "group", no leadership, and no way to make > decisions except by fiat. I think Rick Tanner's opinion is essential for > this.. maybe a few others. Jima's role seems to me to be more significant > than he admits. > > > Chuck > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list