Elvedin, Do you feel strongly enough about wanting "someone" to set up meetings, arrange speakers, etc. to volunteer to do it? We don't stand on ceremony here - If you look at the archives you can see how we have done installfests in the past. If you want an an installfest put out feelers on the list and see if you can build critical mass. If enough people with sufficient resources want one we have one. Mark Browne > Some leadership for this group would be good - at least we would have > someone actively trying to set up meetings (and look for speakers) or > installfests instead of what we have now.