Will- I've never loaded an incremental, just the "p" releases, but I've gone through most of 'em from 4.6Ap12 to 5.0Ap33 and I've NEVER seen it do a fat load. It's always been a thin load and it's always worked fine. I have been dying for user's download speeds since > July of this year, when it was in 5.0Ai13, but rockwell code revisions have only > been updated in the 'p' branch, so this is why I am so anxious to get 5.0Ai28 > working. I'm not sure I understand this as it seems contradictory, but I assume you meant "p" instead of "i" or vice-versa somewhere in there. At any rate, Ap33 does have the updated Rockwell code. Also, I've never done an "nvram clear" on mine after updating the code- I just reboot it. Basically, after getting the file into /tftpboot, I just fsave, tsave to a null file I've created in /tftpboot, tloadcode, (which does an fsave anyway) and when it loads with no errors (usually does) I just reboot. For all I know I'm not doing it right either, but it does seem to work and they've all been thinloads. I've wondered about that too, since some of 'em are bigger than 960K as you said- but I rather imagine that THAT is caused by something silly, like the system reporting a thinload no matter what it's really doing, or Ascend's docs being a little out of sync. I've just never worried about it. I went to bed at 4am and just woke up, so use the above at your own risk. ;-) I may have missed something but I don't think so... 'Shot ++ Ascend Users Mailing List ++ To unsubscribe: send unsubscribe to ascend-users-request@bungi.com To get FAQ'd: <<A HREF="http://www.nealis.net/ascend/faq">http://www.nealis.net/ascend/faq</A>> </PRE> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <HR> <STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A HREF="msg11661.html">(ASCEND) 5.0Ai28 - anyone have success?</A></STRONG></LI> <UL> <LI><EM>From</EM>: Will Pierce <willp@dreamscape.com></LI> </UL> </UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <HR> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg11664.html">Re: (ASCEND) 5.0Ai28 - anyone have success?</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg11661.html">(ASCEND) 5.0Ai28 - anyone have success?</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg11661.html">(ASCEND) 5.0Ai28 - anyone have success?</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg11664.html">Re: (ASCEND) 5.0Ai28 - anyone have success?</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="maillist.html#11662"><STRONG>Main</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thrd276.html#11662"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> </BODY> </HTML>