At 01:20 PM 12/17/97 -0800, Earl Wallace wrote: >We have a Max 2000 connected to an ISDN PRI in a Centrex group on >the PacBell SNFCCA21DS1 (DMS-100) switch in San Francisco. Up until >about a month ago we were just like everyone else: we could dial >inside the Centrex using 5-digits and call outside the Centrex by >dialing '9' first. This worked on every release of Ascend software >I tried. The 'test' command also worked for this setup. Then that >switch was upgraded and the "bootleg workaround" which made this all >work was ripped out. The switch guy at PacBell said that SBC wants >these switches to run clean with no bootleg workarounds from now on. > >After this upgrade, I could call anyone except the 5-digit Centrex >ISDN BRI's. Didn't have to dial 9 to get outside the Centrex. It >acted just as if I didn't have centrex at all. So I called PacBell >and they watched me make a few 5-digit calls to some customers and >noticed that I wasn't setting the 'Private' bit/flag in the 'Network >Specific Flag' (this is their term) of the Q.931 packet. Well, I >remembered there was a RADIUS attribute that might be worth trying, >so I played around with that and found that this set the Private flag >so PacBell was happy and I could call inside the Centrex and outside >as before: > > Ascend-PRI-Number-Type = Local-Number > >This worked great in 4.6Cp22 but not in 5.0Ap36. I tried all the >values of Ascend-PRI-Number-Type in RADIUS and even went directly to >the connection profile and tried all values of 'PRI # Type' and none >worked. I flat-out was unable to call 5-digit extensions, so I >called PacBell and again they never saw the Private flag being set. >I backed down to 4.6p22 and all was fine again (as long as I used the >Local-Number value). > >I also noticed that the Terminal Server 'test' command was unable to >make 5-digit Centrex calls in both 4.6Cp22 and 5.0Ap36. I guess this >is because there is no way to tell it the call type? > >I assume these RADIUS values are supposed to set some flag in the >Q.931 packet somewhere, so it would seem that one of these guys >isn't setting that darn Private flag: > > VALUE Ascend-PRI-Number-Type Intl-Number 1 > VALUE Ascend-PRI-Number-Type National-Number 2 > VALUE Ascend-PRI-Number-Type Local-Number 4 > VALUE Ascend-PRI-Number-Type Abbrev-Number 5 > >If PacBell is going to do more ripping out of bootleg workarounds, >there are going to be a lot of unhappy Ascend customers who are >running Centrex ISDN shops... > >-earlw > >>From: Kevin Smith <kevin@ascend.com> >> >>You're dialing out with the MAX then ? >> >>I wonder if they mean that the call-by-call parameter should be set to >>1...maybe it was in your earlier setup....? >> >>At 10:50 PM 12/16/97 -0800, Earl Wallace wrote: >>> >>>We were running 4.6Cp22 on our Max 2000 and decided to jump over to >>>5.0Ap36 but had to go back to 4.6Cp22 after we could not call any of >>>our Centrex ISDN customers with 5.0Ap36. >>> >>>To avoid PacBell per-minute charges, we must dial the Centrex >>>extensions with 5-digits (it can vary depending on your need). >>>We had the PacBell Tech Support folks watch us make some Centrex >>>calls and they did not see us set the 'Private' flag in the call >>>setup. This flag has to be set for Centrex calls (if the Private >>>flag isn't set, it assumes you are making a Public call). In the >>>past this has not been a problem before because PacBell hacked around >>>this 'Private' flag requirement, but they don't do that any more >>>since SBC has declared the switches will run unhacked code, which >>>I guess is a GoodThing ;-) 4.6Cp22 set the Private flag, 5.0Ap36 >>>does not. >>> >>>Anyone else doing Centrex calls to their customers on a DMS-100 in >>>PacBell-Land with 5.0Ap36? >>> >>>I have reported the problem to Ascend but haven't heard back from them >>>on this particular issue... >>> >>>P.S. - Other than this Private flag problem, we would very happy with >>> 5.0Ap36. >> >>Kevin > >--- >Earl Wallace [earlw@walltech.com] Wallace Technical Communications >V: 650-938-1352 F: 650-961-9151 <A HREF="http://www.walltech.com">http://www.walltech.com</A> > >++ Ascend Users Mailing List ++ >To unsubscribe: send unsubscribe to ascend-users-request@bungi.com >To get FAQ'd: <<A HREF="http://www.nealis.net/ascend/faq">http://www.nealis.net/ascend/faq</A>> > Matt Holdrege <A HREF="http://www.ascend.com">http://www.ascend.com</A> matt@ascend.com ++ Ascend Users Mailing List ++ To unsubscribe: send unsubscribe to ascend-users-request@bungi.com To get FAQ'd: <<A HREF="http://www.nealis.net/ascend/faq">http://www.nealis.net/ascend/faq</A>> </PRE> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <STRONG>Follow-Ups</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A HREF="msg11809.html">Re: (ASCEND) Centrex Calls with 5.0Ap36 (Private/Public Flags)</A></STRONG></LI> <UL> <LI><EM>From</EM>: Earl Wallace <earlw@walltech.com></LI> </UL> </UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A HREF="msg11754.html">Re: (ASCEND) Centrex Calls with 5.0Ap36 (Private/Public Flags)</A></STRONG></LI> <UL> <LI><EM>From</EM>: Kevin Smith <kevin@ascend.com></LI> </UL> <LI><STRONG><A HREF="msg11758.html">Re: (ASCEND) Centrex Calls with 5.0Ap36 (Private/Public Flags)</A></STRONG></LI> <UL> <LI><EM>From</EM>: Earl Wallace <earlw@walltech.com></LI> </UL> </UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <HR> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg11770.html">Re: (ASCEND) P50 4.6b vs Max4000 4.5Bp1</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg11769.html">(ASCEND) TNT 672 modems, DS3 Channelized</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg11758.html">Re: (ASCEND) Centrex Calls with 5.0Ap36 (Private/Public Flags)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg11809.html">Re: (ASCEND) Centrex Calls with 5.0Ap36 (Private/Public Flags)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="mail2.html#11772"><STRONG>Main</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thrd280.html#11772"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> </BODY> </HTML>