-earlw On Wed, 17 Dec 1997, Matt Holdrege wrote: >Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 22:50:15 -0800 >From: Matt Holdrege <matt@ascend.com> >To: Earl Wallace <earlw@walltech.com> >Cc: Kevin Smith <kevin@ascend.com>, > "Oliver J. Albrecht" <oj@nexus.flensbone.net>, ascend-users@bungi.com >Subject: Re: (ASCEND) Centrex Calls with 5.0Ap36 (Private/Public Flags) > >>From your description, it sounds like a bug. Please open a ticket with >customer support. > > >At 01:20 PM 12/17/97 -0800, Earl Wallace wrote: >>We have a Max 2000 connected to an ISDN PRI in a Centrex group on >>the PacBell SNFCCA21DS1 (DMS-100) switch in San Francisco. Up until >>about a month ago we were just like everyone else: we could dial >>inside the Centrex using 5-digits and call outside the Centrex by >>dialing '9' first. This worked on every release of Ascend software >>I tried. The 'test' command also worked for this setup. Then that >>switch was upgraded and the "bootleg workaround" which made this all >>work was ripped out. The switch guy at PacBell said that SBC wants >>these switches to run clean with no bootleg workarounds from now on. >> >>After this upgrade, I could call anyone except the 5-digit Centrex >>ISDN BRI's. Didn't have to dial 9 to get outside the Centrex. It >>acted just as if I didn't have centrex at all. So I called PacBell >>and they watched me make a few 5-digit calls to some customers and >>noticed that I wasn't setting the 'Private' bit/flag in the 'Network >>Specific Flag' (this is their term) of the Q.931 packet. Well, I >>remembered there was a RADIUS attribute that might be worth trying, >>so I played around with that and found that this set the Private flag >>so PacBell was happy and I could call inside the Centrex and outside >>as before: >> >> Ascend-PRI-Number-Type = Local-Number >> >>This worked great in 4.6Cp22 but not in 5.0Ap36. I tried all the >>values of Ascend-PRI-Number-Type in RADIUS and even went directly to >>the connection profile and tried all values of 'PRI # Type' and none >>worked. I flat-out was unable to call 5-digit extensions, so I >>called PacBell and again they never saw the Private flag being set. >>I backed down to 4.6p22 and all was fine again (as long as I used the >>Local-Number value). >> >>I also noticed that the Terminal Server 'test' command was unable to >>make 5-digit Centrex calls in both 4.6Cp22 and 5.0Ap36. I guess this >>is because there is no way to tell it the call type? >> >>I assume these RADIUS values are supposed to set some flag in the >>Q.931 packet somewhere, so it would seem that one of these guys >>isn't setting that darn Private flag: >> >> VALUE Ascend-PRI-Number-Type Intl-Number 1 >> VALUE Ascend-PRI-Number-Type National-Number 2 >> VALUE Ascend-PRI-Number-Type Local-Number 4 >> VALUE Ascend-PRI-Number-Type Abbrev-Number 5 >> >>If PacBell is going to do more ripping out of bootleg workarounds, >>there are going to be a lot of unhappy Ascend customers who are >>running Centrex ISDN shops... >> >>-earlw >> >>>From: Kevin Smith <kevin@ascend.com> >>> >>>You're dialing out with the MAX then ? >>> >>>I wonder if they mean that the call-by-call parameter should be set to >>>1...maybe it was in your earlier setup....? >>> >>>At 10:50 PM 12/16/97 -0800, Earl Wallace wrote: >>>> >>>>We were running 4.6Cp22 on our Max 2000 and decided to jump over to >>>>5.0Ap36 but had to go back to 4.6Cp22 after we could not call any of >>>>our Centrex ISDN customers with 5.0Ap36. >>>> >>>>To avoid PacBell per-minute charges, we must dial the Centrex >>>>extensions with 5-digits (it can vary depending on your need). >>>>We had the PacBell Tech Support folks watch us make some Centrex >>>>calls and they did not see us set the 'Private' flag in the call >>>>setup. This flag has to be set for Centrex calls (if the Private >>>>flag isn't set, it assumes you are making a Public call). In the >>>>past this has not been a problem before because PacBell hacked around >>>>this 'Private' flag requirement, but they don't do that any more >>>>since SBC has declared the switches will run unhacked code, which >>>>I guess is a GoodThing ;-) 4.6Cp22 set the Private flag, 5.0Ap36 >>>>does not. >>>> >>>>Anyone else doing Centrex calls to their customers on a DMS-100 in >>>>PacBell-Land with 5.0Ap36? >>>> >>>>I have reported the problem to Ascend but haven't heard back from them >>>>on this particular issue... >>>> >>>>P.S. - Other than this Private flag problem, we would very happy with >>>> 5.0Ap36. >>> >>>Kevin >> >>--- >>Earl Wallace [earlw@walltech.com] Wallace Technical Communications >>V: 650-938-1352 F: 650-961-9151 <A HREF="http://www.walltech.com">http://www.walltech.com</A> >> >>++ Ascend Users Mailing List ++ >>To unsubscribe: send unsubscribe to ascend-users-request@bungi.com >>To get FAQ'd: <<A HREF="http://www.nealis.net/ascend/faq">http://www.nealis.net/ascend/faq</A>> >> >Matt Holdrege <A HREF="http://www.ascend.com">http://www.ascend.com</A> matt@ascend.com > Earl Wallace [earlw@walltech.com] Wallace Technical Communications V: 650-938-1352 F: 650-961-9151 <A HREF="http://www.walltech.com">http://www.walltech.com</A> ++ Ascend Users Mailing List ++ To unsubscribe: send unsubscribe to ascend-users-request@bungi.com To get FAQ'd: <<A HREF="http://www.nealis.net/ascend/faq">http://www.nealis.net/ascend/faq</A>> </PRE> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <HR> <STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A HREF="msg11772.html">Re: (ASCEND) Centrex Calls with 5.0Ap36 (Private/Public Flags)</A></STRONG></LI> <UL> <LI><EM>From</EM>: Matt Holdrege <matt@ascend.com></LI> </UL> </UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <HR> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg11805.html">Re: (ASCEND) Pipeline75 dialing into USR I-Modem @ 128k</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg11803.html">Re: (ASCEND) 5.0Ap38 for the MAX products</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg11772.html">Re: (ASCEND) Centrex Calls with 5.0Ap36 (Private/Public Flags)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg11786.html">Re: (ASCEND) Centrex Calls with 5.0Ap36 (Private/Public Flags)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="maillist.html#11809"><STRONG>Main</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thrd280.html#11809"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> </BODY> </HTML>