I have called Ascend (ticket # 115094) and they were helpful enough to find this Connection Profile trick, but they say the OR-U's should work fine without having to do this. I called Livingston (ticket # 038841) and they think it should work fine. I have since called Livingston several times over several days to work this out and they haven't gotten back to me (it's been a couple of days now). To get this customer up, I loaned them an Ascend P50 while I work on their OR-U problem. This customer tried this OR-U with an ISP who had a PM-3 and of course it worked just fine. Are any of you using an Ascend Max 2000 running 4.6Cp15 and 'RADIUS version 1.16 (plus Ascend extensions) 97/02/24' having any problems supporting Livingston ISDN Office Routers? Thanks, -earlw Here's what it looks like from the Ascend's point of view when using only RADIUS to authenticate the call: WANDATA: Incoming call allocate, route 10 newSession unknown WANDATA: Incoming call, route 10, type PPP WANDATA-0: WAN state change, route 10 WANDATA-0: >> RouteID 10, state INACTIVE, event OPEN_IN_REQ WANDATA-1: << RouteID 10, state CALLING WANDATA-1: WAN state change, route 10 WANDATA-1: >> RouteID 10, state CALLING, event CARRIER_EST PPPIF: open: routeid 10, incoming YES PPPIF-1: vj comp on PPPIF-1: _initAuthentication, mpID=0 PPPIF-1: PAP/CHAP auth, incoming WANDATA-1: << RouteID 10, state OPENING PPPIF-1: Link Is up. PPPIF-1: pppMpNegUntimeout last 0 layer 0 PPPIF-1: pppMpNegUntimeout last 0 layer 0 PPPIF-1: LCP Opened, local 'Answer', remote '' PPPIF-1: MP negotiated PPPIF-1: _openAuthentication, mpID=332 PPPIF-1: pppMpNegUntimeout last 0 layer 1 PPPIF-1: Auth Opened PPPIF-1: Remote hostName is '' PPPIF-1: No profile with name '' or MpID 332 PPPIF-1: MP negotiated PPPIF-1: adding MP channel PPPIF-1: First channel, MpID 332 PPPIF: Assigning vjInfo (B0515DA0) and bncpInfo(B02A3270) PPPIF-1: opening CCP PPPIF-1: pppMpSendNeg Pkt PPPIF-1: pppMpNegTimeout layer 6 PPPIF-1: Allocated address [208.195.157.71] PPPIF-1: opening IPNCP: 208.195.156.35. -> 208.195.157.71 PPPIF-1: pppMpSendNeg Pkt PPPIF-1: pppMpNegTimeout layer 4 PPPIF-1: pppMpSendNeg Pkt PPPIF-1: pppMpNegUntimeout last 0 layer 4 PPPIF-1: pppMpSendNeg Pkt PPPIF-1: pppMpNegUntimeout last 0 layer 4 PPPIF-1: IPNCP Opened to 789cc3d0 PPPIF-1: Freed address [208.195.157.71] WANDATA-1: ENCAPS state change, route 10 WANDATA-1: WAN state change, route 10 WANDATA-1: >> RouteID 10, state OPENING, event ENCAPS_OPENED WANDATA: validateIncomingUser: caller is '' [208.195.156.120] WANDATA-1: No profile assigned WANDATA-1: STILL No profile assigned WANDATA-1: profile required, dropping call WANDATA-1: session failed validation, clearing call PPPIF-1: pppClose called WANDATA-1: clear call PPPIF-332: pppMpNegUntimeout last 1 layer 0 PPPIF-1: doing normal close. PPPIF-1: IPNCP closed: Close OK PPPIF-1: Administrative CLOSE of LAYER_AUTH : Close OK PPPIF-1: AuthFail/Close with no active IFs PPPIF-1: mpDeleteMpInfo ret'd FALSE WANDATA-1: ENCAPS state change, route 10 PPPIF-1: LCP closed: Close OK WANDATA-1: ENCAPS state change, route 10 WANDATA-1: errLog(ERROR_LAN_SECURITY) WANDATA-1: << RouteID 10, state CLOSING WANDATA: Call state change, port 89, connected 0, carrier 0 WANDATA-1: WAN state change, route 10 WANDATA-1: >> RouteID 10, state CLOSING, event ENCAPS_CLOSED WANDATA-1: << RouteID 10, state CLEARING WANDATA-1: WAN state change, route 10 WANDATA-1: >> RouteID 10, state CLEARING, event ENCAPS_CLOSED WANDATA: EVENT IGNORED WANDATA-1: << RouteID 10, state CLEARING WANDATA-1: WAN state change, route 10 WANDATA-1: >> RouteID 10, state CLEARING, event CALL_DISCONNECTED RADACCT-10:stopRadAcct RADACCT-10:_endRadAcct: STOP was delayed WANDATA-0: << RouteID 0, state unknown ++ Ascend Users Mailing List ++ To unsubscribe: send unsubscribe to ascend-users-request@bungi.com To get FAQ'd: <<A HREF="http://www.shore.net/~dreaming/ascend-faq">http://www.shore.net/~dreaming/ascend-faq</A>> or <<A HREF="ftp://ftp.shore.net/members/dreaming/ascend-faq.txt">ftp://ftp.shore.net/members/dreaming/ascend-faq.txt</A>> </PRE> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <HR> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01252.html">(ASCEND) Livingston Office Router Problem... (fwd)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01254.html">Re: (ASCEND) CONFIGURE UNIT</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01267.html">RE: (ASCEND) T1 and HSSI</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01252.html">(ASCEND) Livingston Office Router Problem... (fwd)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="maillist.html#01251"><STRONG>Main</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thrd48.html#01251"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> </BODY> </HTML>