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Re: (ASCEND) Quake/QW and Pipeline 75 and NAT



On Fri, 31 Oct 1997, Dale Botkin wrote:

> >Is there ANYTHING Ascend can do to get this fixed?  Ascend, are you out
> >there?
> 
> 
> Why would this be Ascend's problem?  Some brain-damaged programmer writes
> something that can't be played through anything doing NAT, and it's an
> Ascend problem?

Gee I was about to respond to the same thing. 
> 
> All the P75 is doing is passing data unmolested, which is precisely what a
> router should do.  Surely we don't expect Ascend to write special code to
> deal with every game that comes down the pike.  The P75 would have to break
> apart every packet and *guess* whether or not it's a Quake packet, rewrite

But that is what NAT does. It takes off the local Ip address, sticks on
the ip address of the router and puts that info in a NAT table for when it
gets a response. Or am I wrong?

> the address, reassemble the packet, and send it.  No thanks.  The router can
> massage the packet header - that's the router's job in this case - but leave
> the data the hell alone.  Let the geniuses who wrote Quake fix the massive
> bug in their program that prevents it from working in any NAT environment.

I agree that it should be fixed by the quake people, to be NAT compliant.

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