Well, that sounds like a valid complaint. I am kind of curious myself. I will typically wait a few days and send another message. This is usually sufficient for me to get a response back. To start with, do you have an "Advantage Service" contract with Ascend? If you do, then you are entitled to specific damages if Ascend fails to deal with you on a timely basis: For each Service call as to which Ascend materially fails to meet the Response Times ... Ascend will provide a nonrefundable credit applicable to future orders for Services in the amount of the lesser of (i) $500 or (ii) one-twelfth (1/12) of Customer's then-annual fees for Services; [see <A HREF="http://www.ascend.com/servagr.html">http://www.ascend.com/servagr.html</A> for details] If you don't have an "Advantage Service" contract, were you within the Warranty period? Even if you don't have a service contract and your warranty has expired, I would still expect you to get reasonable (maybe not "prompt") assistance. If you don't there should be some way to follow up to find out what happened and if necessary to escalate the complaint so that you get more than the automated response. Perhaps our illustrious Ascend spokesperson can fill us in on the proper ways to follow-up or escalate when using e-mail. [Yo! Kevin!] When on the phone, once you get to a person, it does seem you can ask for escalation. ++ Ascend Users Mailing List ++ To unsubscribe: send unsubscribe to ascend-users-request@bungi.com To get FAQ'd: <<A HREF="http://www.nealis.net/ascend/faq">http://www.nealis.net/ascend/faq</A>> </PRE> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <HR> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg09672.html">Re: (ASCEND) _very_ poor ISN generation on Ascend MAX</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg09668.html">Re: (ASCEND) _very_ poor ISN generation on Ascend MAX</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg09663.html">(ASCEND) Re: hash codes... (loosing Wan3,4+ISDN)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg09666.html">(ASCEND) RADIUS IP pools: Adding second MAX</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="mail14.html#09671"><STRONG>Main</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thrd202.html#09671"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> </BODY> </HTML>