I am not that surprised. Knowledge of the intimate details of TCP/IP is not necessarily part of working in customer support. The problem you found, though very real and well documented, is still more subtle than would covered in a typical introductory course that covered routing and IPX and IP and Appletalk and PPP and frame relay and.... I believe your posting to BUGTRAQ was probably noticed by those in the know. [I know there are Ascend engineers on BUGTRAQ, FIREWALLS, etc mailing lists]. But I would not expect it to get a high priority to be fixed -- as you point out, "most environments don't involve large numbers of TCP connections to or from your terminal servers." You might try asking the customer service people to escalate it to a security expert in the group. I know they exist - I have even talked to one. ++ Ascend Users Mailing List ++ To unsubscribe: send unsubscribe to ascend-users-request@bungi.com To get FAQ'd: <<A HREF="http://www.nealis.net/ascend/faq">http://www.nealis.net/ascend/faq</A>> </PRE> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <STRONG>Follow-Ups</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A HREF="msg09678.html">(ASCEND) Pipeline 50 and Dynamic IP</A></STRONG></LI> <UL> <LI><EM>From</EM>: nolan@cp-tel.net (Nolan W. Bailey, Jr.)</LI> </UL> </UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <HR> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg09674.html">Re: (ASCEND) ASCEND RADIUS FEATURE REQUEST</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg09671.html">Re: (ASCEND) Re: hash codes... (loosing Wan3,4+ISDN)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg09668.html">Re: (ASCEND) _very_ poor ISN generation on Ascend MAX</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg09678.html">(ASCEND) Pipeline 50 and Dynamic IP</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="mail14.html#09672"><STRONG>Main</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thrd202.html#09672"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> </BODY> </HTML>