By the way, if anyone's curious, I've started a web page for the java client. It doesn't look too spectacular. In fact, for die hard crossfire players, its kinda boring, because it looks amazingly like what you're used to seeing. But hey.. its got "Purty Colurs" :-) http://www.bolthole.com/jcrossclient [to unsubscribe etc., send mail to crossfire-request@ifi.uio.no]