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tclug-list Digest 19 Oct 1999 18:42:18 -0000 Issue 440
Topics (messages 9248 through 9270):
bash config files on Slackware
9248 by: "Jon Schewe" <schewe@tcfreenet.org>
slocate (was: Re: [TCLUG:9212] system colors)
9249 by: Philip C Mendelsohn <mend0070@tc.umn.edu>
9251 by: ryan goldberg <rgoldber@d.umn.edu>
9252 by: Philip C Mendelsohn <mend0070@tc.umn.edu>
9264 by: ryan goldberg <rgoldber@d.umn.edu>
9266 by: Philip C Mendelsohn <mend0070@tc.umn.edu>
usernet not disconnecting
9250 by: Philip C Mendelsohn <mend0070@tc.umn.edu>
Vixie Cron for Windows
9253 by: "Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom" <carls@agritech.com>
9265 by: schewe@tcfreenet.org
nfs exports
9254 by: "Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom" <carls@agritech.com>
9255 by: Nate Carlson <natecars@infiniteloop.com>
9257 by: "Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom" <carls@agritech.com>
print server concepts
9256 by: Tim Wilson <wilson@chemsun.chem.umn.edu>
9258 by: "Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom" <carls@agritech.com>
9259 by: Christopher McKinley <lamfada@lugh.net>
9260 by: "Carl Patten" <cpatte@trimodalinc.com>
9261 by: "Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom" <carls@agritech.com>
Cisco 605 Internal DSL Router
9262 by: dan <dan@williamsongraphics.com>
9263 by: Christopher Reid Palmer <reid@pconline.com>
9268 by: Mandar Vaze <mandar_v@yahoo.com>
Netscape question
9267 by: Chris Kesler <chris@pconline.com>
harware question(s)
9269 by: Dave Erickson <gsa700xxx@mediaone.net>
9270 by: Gabe Turner <dopp@acm.cs.umn.edu>
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From: "Jon Schewe" <schewe@tcfreenet.org>
To: <tclug-list@mn-linux.org>
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:15:19 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Subject: Re: [TCLUG:9215] bash config files on Slackware
> Add a variable to .profile or /etc/profile to set up your ENV variable
> ENV=$HOME/.bashrc; export ENV
>
This is not always a good idea. I used to do this then got in touble
because bash was calling my .bashrc when it shouldn't. If you see wierdness
after this that could be why, just a warning.
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:17:41 -0500 (CDT)
From: Philip C Mendelsohn <mend0070@tc.umn.edu>
To: tclug-list@mn-linux.org
Message-Id: <Pine.SOL.4.20.9910181309090.7902-200000@garnet.tc.umn.edu>
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Subject: slocate (was: Re: [TCLUG:9212] system colors)
On Mon, 18 Oct 1999, Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom wrote:
> I belive it's called rgb.txt. it's somewhere in your X11 tree. do a
> 'locate rgb.txt'
Thanks -- that was it. Brought up another question though.
My root acct keeps getting email from cron, but I hadn't paid any
attention to it. Now, trying to locate rgb.txt didn't work (I found it
using 'find') and I think I put the pieces together.
The error message emailed to me every night is
"/etc/cron.daily/slocate.cron: line 6: syntax error: unexpected end of
file"
It looks OK to me -- I've attached the offending file. Anyone willing to
take a glance and see if I'm missing something? (Obviously something.)
Am I right in assuming that locate searches an "index" or database of
system files, rather than getting down and dirty the (slow) way 'fine'
does?
Thanks again!
--
if ($income > $expenses OR $time != $money )
set hell_frozen=true;
asif
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From: ryan goldberg <rgoldber@d.umn.edu>
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:40:33 -0500 (CDT)
To: tclug-list@mn-linux.org
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.9910181338240.30023-200000@killermonkey.localdomain>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Subject: Re: [TCLUG:9249] slocate (was: Re: [TCLUG:9212] system colors)
well i don't really know but it seems you're missing an if ... fi
My working /etc/cron.daily/slocate.cron is attached.
.ryan
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 14:07:25 -0500 (CDT)
From: Philip C Mendelsohn <mend0070@tc.umn.edu>
To: tclug-list@mn-linux.org
Message-Id: <Pine.SOL.4.20.9910181405390.19842-100000@garnet.tc.umn.edu>
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Subject: Re: [TCLUG:9249] slocate (was: Re: [TCLUG:9212] system colors)
On Mon, 18 Oct 1999, ryan goldberg wrote:
> well i don't really know but it seems you're missing an if ... fi
>
> My working /etc/cron.daily/slocate.cron is attached.
The if ... fi does seem to be missing, but does my syntax include any
directives? I just see it saying (if) x AND y OR z. Sorry for my bash
ignorance. (I'm reading the ORA book inbetween keystrokes...<g>)
Thanks, Phil
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if ($income > $expenses OR $time != $money )
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From: ryan goldberg <rgoldber@d.umn.edu>
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 23:04:33 -0500 (CDT)
To: tclug-list@mn-linux.org
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.9910182207001.31387-100000@killermonkey.localdomain>
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Subject: Re: [TCLUG:9249] slocate (was: Re: [TCLUG:9212] system colors)
I don't think not having if..fi is the problem. It looks like the
"short-ciruit" feature of && and || is being used. That is:
If the left operand of a && evaluates to false, the && evaluates to false
and the right operand is never evaluated. Alternatively, if the left
operand of || evaluates to true, the || evaluates to true, and the right
operand is never evaluated.
I ran yours from the cmd line and it works fine. Complains about updatedb
being a binary (it's actually a link to slocate), but it should, sh sure
won't interpret a binary... It then went on to execute slocate.
Is updatedb a script? Does it look ok?
Just
/usr/bin/slocate -u -e "/tmp,/var/tmp,/usr/tmp,/afs,/net,/proc"
should suffice to update proper;y, if you don't have any network file
stuff mounted
A working locate is mighty nice to have
.ryan
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 08:47:26 -0500 (CDT)
From: Philip C Mendelsohn <mend0070@tc.umn.edu>
To: tclug-list@mn-linux.org
Message-Id: <Pine.SOL.4.20.9910190845570.22557-100000@garnet.tc.umn.edu>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Subject: Re: [TCLUG:9249] slocate (was: Re: [TCLUG:9212] system colors)
On Mon, 18 Oct 1999, ryan goldberg wrote:
> /usr/bin/slocate -u -e "/tmp,/var/tmp,/usr/tmp,/afs,/net,/proc"
>
> should suffice to update proper;y, if you don't have any network file
> stuff mounted
It does, I don't, and everything's groovy in that dept. again.
> A working locate is mighty nice to have
It is indeed! Thanks a ton, Ryan.
Phil
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:26:09 -0500 (CDT)
From: Philip C Mendelsohn <mend0070@tc.umn.edu>
To: tclug-list@mn-linux.org
Message-Id: <Pine.SOL.4.20.9910181324010.7902-100000@garnet.tc.umn.edu>
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Subject: usernet not disconnecting
Switched from KDE to Window Maker. I thought Usernet was the easiest way
to bring dialup connections up / down.
I have all users set as being able to disconnect in linuxconf, but in
practice it seems to take root issuing a 'killall pppd'.
Any suggestions on a less barbaric way around this one?
Thanks,
Phil
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if ($income > $expenses OR $time != $money )
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To: tclug-list@mn-linux.org
From: "Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom" <carls@agritech.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:51:51 -0700
Subject: Vixie Cron for Windows
anyone know if there has been a port of Vixie Cron to Win32?
Carl Soderstrom
System Administrator 307 Brighton Ave.
Minnesota DHIA Buffalo, MN
carls@agritech.com (612) 682-1091
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 07:35:51 -0500 (CDT)
From: schewe@tcfreenet.org
To: tclug-list@mn-linux.org
MIME-Version: 1.0
Subject: Re: [TCLUG:9253] Vixie Cron for Windows
On 18 Oct, Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom wrote:
> anyone know if there has been a port of Vixie Cron to Win32?
>
Yes. If you count having it on top of cygwin. I just looked for cron
and windows and it popped up. If you're using NT you can also use it's
scheduled tasks option in my computer. Not quite as good as cron, but
it's decent.
--
Jon Schewe
http://eggplant.mtu.net/~jpschewe
schewe@tcfreenet.org
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To: tclug-list@mn-linux.org, Linux@scalug.org
From: "Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom" <carls@agritech.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 14:27:41 -0700
Subject: nfs exports
I wish to export a home directory from one machine, and mount it on
another, for backup purposes.
I created the nfs export, it's in /etc/exports, looks right.
I try mounting it (as root), 'mount -t nfs
xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:/home/<username> /mnt/<username)'; but it tells me
"permission denied".
what's going wrong here?
also, I'm wary of how secure this setup is... i'd rather do it over
SSH or the like. however, I have no idea how SSH works or is set up (am
trying to get around to reading the stuff at ssh.fi).
any advice?
thanks much!
Carl Soderstrom
System Administrator 307 Brighton Ave.
Minnesota DHIA Buffalo, MN
carls@agritech.com (612) 682-1091
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 16:31:17 -0500 (CDT)
From: Nate Carlson <natecars@infiniteloop.com>
To: tclug-list@mn-linux.org
cc: Linux@scalug.org
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.9910181629180.24062-100000@infinity.infiniteloop.com>
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Subject: Re: [TCLUG:9254] nfs exports
On Mon, 18 Oct 1999, Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom wrote:
> I wish to export a home directory from one machine, and mount it on
> another, for backup purposes.
> I created the nfs export, it's in /etc/exports, looks right.
> I try mounting it (as root), 'mount -t nfs
> xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:/home/<username> /mnt/<username)'; but it tells me
> "permission denied".
> what's going wrong here?
>
> also, I'm wary of how secure this setup is... i'd rather do it over
> SSH or the like. however, I have no idea how SSH works or is set up (am
> trying to get around to reading the stuff at ssh.fi).
>
> any advice?
>
> thanks much!
> Carl Soderstrom
> System Administrator 307 Brighton Ave.
> Minnesota DHIA Buffalo, MN
> carls@agritech.com (612) 682-1091
>
>
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What does the line in /etc/exports look like? Should be something like
this:
/home 10.0.0.2/255.255.255.255(rw)
This would allow host 10.0.0.2 to mount /home with read-write permissions.
Of course, you can change 'rw' to 'ro' to only allow read-only access. If
you wanted to allow your whole subnet, you would do something like:
/home 10.0.0.0/255.255.255.0(rw)
just for reference's sake. HIH.
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Nate Carlson
the infinite loop
natecars@infiniteloop.com
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To: tclug-list@mn-linux.org
From: "Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom" <carls@agritech.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 14:55:49 -0700
Subject: Re: [TCLUG:9254] nfs exports
>What does the line in /etc/exports look like? Should be something like
>this:
>
>/home 10.0.0.2/255.255.255.255(rw)
ah, that did the trick. I was referring to it by hostname, not IP.
(and it wasn't present in /etc/hosts)
thanks!
Carl Soderstrom
System Administrator 307 Brighton Ave.
Minnesota DHIA Buffalo, MN
carls@agritech.com (612) 682-1091
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 16:45:51 -0500 (CDT)
From: Tim Wilson <wilson@chemsun.chem.umn.edu>
To: tclug-list@mn-linux.org
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.96.991018163233.872A-100000@chemsun.chem.umn.edu>
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Subject: print server concepts
Hi everyone,
Here's a question that I've been wondering about off and on. I figure it's
something that other people would probably be interested in too. So here
goes...
Let's say we have a simple LAN, 'server', 'workstation', 'printer', and
'printserver.' The printer has a JetDirect card (i.e., its own internal
print server). I'm trying to figure out the basics of how the network
printing works. I understand that, strictly speaking, the JetDirect card
eliminates the need for a special print server (especially given the
simplicity of this example). But I've also heard that more complex
networks benefit from having a separate machine doing the print serving to
the JetDirects.
Anyway, here are some questions.
1. Does 'workstation' have to run lpd, or just 'printserver'?
2. Does having one print server for multiple printers mean simply that
there are multiple print queues on that machine or is it more complicated
than that?
3. How would a print server print to multiple printers if the printers
don't have JetDirect cards (or the equivalent)? Would you have multiple,
physical parallel connections to the printers? If so, wouldn't that mean
that all of the printers would have to be physically close to one another?
4. To configure printing to 'printer', would I set up printing to
'printserver' and have that redirect printing to 'printer'?
For whatever reason, I haven't got the hang of this network printing stuff
yet. What I've got running works, but I feel like I don't understand it,
and I'd like to add another printer and make everything work well
together. Any other hints?
-Tim
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To: tclug-list@mn-linux.org
From: "Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom" <carls@agritech.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 15:27:49 -0700
Subject: Re: [TCLUG:9256] print server concepts
>1. Does 'workstation' have to run lpd, or just 'printserver'?
only 'printserver' needs lpd. if 'workstation' is a windoze box, you
would (AFAIK) send print jobs to it via SAMBA, just as if it were a NT or
Netware print server (I've actually never touched an NT print server; i'm
guessing it looks to the network like the netware one I'm replacing).
OTOH, if 'workstation' is a *nix box of some sort (or at least has
lpd of some form) you can in theory print directly to the JetDirect card in
the printer. however, it is recommended that you send all files to one print
server (not sure exactly why; may be to avoid possible confusions/collisions
on the JetDirect card).
>2. Does having one print server for multiple printers mean simply that
>there are multiple print queues on that machine or is it more complicated
>than that?
just that there are multiple print queues.
the suck of it is that lpd is really *stupid*; and if one of your
print queues jams up for some reason, they *all* jam up.
RH 5.1's print filters will crap out if you send them a file without
an EOF marker, and this caused me no end of headaches until i got it figured
out. (the line of sed code that does the CR->CR/LF translation needs to be
changed to a line of awk). dunno if 6.1 has improved this.
>3. How would a print server print to multiple printers if the printers
>don't have JetDirect cards (or the equivalent)? Would you have multiple,
>physical parallel connections to the printers? If so, wouldn't that mean
>that all of the printers would have to be physically close to one another?
if they are not on the network, they have to be connected by
parallel cable. yes, this means they have to be physically close.
you can get network 'print server' little black boxes from any
number of companies; they will do the same thing as a jetdirect card, only
externally. they connect to the network on one port, and have other ports
for parallel or serial printer cables. you send jobs to their IP address (or
IPX, or NetBIOS), and specify the print queue, and they send it on via the
appropriate connection.
>4. To configure printing to 'printer', would I set up printing to
>'printserver' and have that redirect printing to 'printer'?
that's it. :)
>For whatever reason, I haven't got the hang of this network printing stuff
>yet. What I've got running works, but I feel like I don't understand it,
>and I'd like to add another printer and make everything work well
>together. Any other hints?
distrust the doco. Intel's docs on their EtherExpress print servers
are wrong on the queue names. :)
Linux is still not the best print server in the world. I think
Netware 5 is a more robust solution. on the other hand, it costs a lot more.
:) once you have your linux box up & running, it's not bad, tho.
Carl Soderstrom
System Administrator 307 Brighton Ave.
Minnesota DHIA Buffalo, MN
carls@agritech.com (612) 682-1091
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 17:29:36 -0500
From: Christopher McKinley <lamfada@lugh.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: tclug-list@mn-linux.org
Subject: Re: [TCLUG:9256] print server concepts
Tim Wilson wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Here's a question that I've been wondering about off and on. I figure it's
> something that other people would probably be interested in too. So here
> goes...
>
> Let's say we have a simple LAN, 'server', 'workstation', 'printer', and
> 'printserver.' The printer has a JetDirect card (i.e., its own internal
> print server). I'm trying to figure out the basics of how the network
> printing works. I understand that, strictly speaking, the JetDirect card
> eliminates the need for a special print server (especially given the
> simplicity of this example). But I've also heard that more complex
> networks benefit from having a separate machine doing the print serving to
> the JetDirects.
>
> Anyway, here are some questions.
>
> 1. Does 'workstation' have to run lpd, or just 'printserver'?
>
You can either have all workstations run lpd, in which case all
workstations must have the /etc/printcap to tell them about the
printers. This way all filters are run locally (i.e., PostScript to
PCL, ASCII to PostScript), but you have to maintain all of the lpd
instances and update filters, etc. Another way to do it is to use the
-Pprintername@printserver option to lpr, and then the conversions will
be run on the print server if everything is setup correctly. Something
I have not tested yet is mix and match of filter settings, i.e., lpd
running on workstation with or without filters. I currently use filters
on the workstation and server. Something to test?
> 2. Does having one print server for multiple printers mean simply that
> there are multiple print queues on that machine or is it more complicated
> than that?
>
I have not used multiple printers connected to the same print server
under Linux, however the LPRng docs do cover that, and yes, each printer
has its own queue, and also its own printcap entry, so that, for
example, I can run one set of filters for my PostScript printer and
another for my PCL printer.
> 3. How would a print server print to multiple printers if the printers
> don't have JetDirect cards (or the equivalent)? Would you have multiple,
> physical parallel connections to the printers? If so, wouldn't that mean
> that all of the printers would have to be physically close to one another?
>
I can not give a tested answer, but it would really depend on the
printers. You could, for example, put a parallel card in the print
server to print to multiple parallel printers, or a better solution that
allows printers to be geographically separated is to use a central print
server, which "knows" which workstation / server has which printer. This
way, hplj4ml-first-floor@printserver can map to
hplj4ml-dept-a@dept-a-wkst-1 and hplj4ml-second-floor@printserver can
map to hplj4ml-dept-b@dept-b-wkst-1, for example.
> 4. To configure printing to 'printer', would I set up printing to
> 'printserver' and have that redirect printing to 'printer'?
>
Basically, yes.
> For whatever reason, I haven't got the hang of this network printing stuff
> yet. What I've got running works, but I feel like I don't understand it,
> and I'd like to add another printer and make everything work well
> together. Any other hints?
>
I am using LPRng, newly recompiled from sources with magicfilter-1.2.
The LPRng docs are pretty good, especially if you already have a working
setup to modify. The printcap and filters should be the same though, no
matter which lpr you are using.
> -Tim
>
> --
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From: "Carl Patten" <cpatte@trimodalinc.com>
To: <tclug-list@mn-linux.org>
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 17:35:20 -0500
Message-ID: <000001bf19b9$0f1f0ac0$a7c809c0@me>
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Subject: RE: [TCLUG:9256] print server concepts
Ah, network printing. I wallow in network printing. Let me try to answer
at least a few of your questions.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Wilson [mailto:wilson@chemsun.chem.umn.edu]
> Sent: Monday, October 18, 1999 4:46 PM
> To: tclug-list@mn-linux.org
> Subject: [TCLUG:9256] print server concepts
>
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Here's a question that I've been wondering about off and on. I figure it's
> something that other people would probably be interested in too. So here
> goes...
>
> Let's say we have a simple LAN, 'server', 'workstation', 'printer', and
> 'printserver.' The printer has a JetDirect card (i.e., its own internal
> print server). I'm trying to figure out the basics of how the network
> printing works. I understand that, strictly speaking, the JetDirect card
> eliminates the need for a special print server (especially given the
> simplicity of this example). But I've also heard that more complex
> networks benefit from having a separate machine doing the print serving to
> the JetDirects.
Yes, even the most advanced JetDirect cards can only accept one connection
at a time. Hence if you get more than one client printing directly to the
JetDirect card, jobs have a tendency to time out or have their connection
reset, especially dumb Windows clients. That's the main advantage of having
a print server in the middle: it can hold jobs in its queue until the
JetDirect printer is ready to accept them.
> Anyway, here are some questions.
>
> 1. Does 'workstation' have to run lpd, or just 'printserver'?
AFAIK, you do need lpd on 'workstation' to properly interpret your
/etc/printcap file and send the jobs to the right spot. If you're using
Samba on 'printserver' you can use the smbprint command instead, though I
haven't tried that much.
> 2. Does having one print server for multiple printers mean simply that
> there are multiple print queues on that machine or is it more complicated
> than that?
That's all there is to it.
> 3. How would a print server print to multiple printers if the printers
> don't have JetDirect cards (or the equivalent)? Would you have multiple,
> physical parallel connections to the printers? If so, wouldn't that mean
> that all of the printers would have to be physically close to one another?
Not necessarily; Digi, for instance, sells products that let you add serial
and parallel ports across an Ethernet network and make it seem like they're
directly connected to your print server. We use Digi PortServer IIs here at
work to run our few remote serial printers. They're damn pricey though, and
last time I looked the Digi RealPort software didn't run on Linux.
You could always set up a network of cheap 486 Linux boxen, each hooked to
one parallel-port printer. That would give you the queuing advantage and
might be cheaper than getting a JetDirect for each one.
> 4. To configure printing to 'printer', would I set up printing to
> 'printserver' and have that redirect printing to 'printer'?
Assuming you're on 'workstation', you would set up printing to host
'printserver' and queue 'printer' in /etc/printcap.
>
> For whatever reason, I haven't got the hang of this network printing stuff
> yet. What I've got running works, but I feel like I don't understand it,
> and I'd like to add another printer and make everything work well
> together. Any other hints?
It can get very complicated in a mixed environment. My advice is to go with
what works for other people. Get printers and print servers that are KNOWN
to work with Linux. So much stuff can go wrong with network printing that
I've become ultra-conservative if not downright paranoid in this one area.
--
Carl Patten
Systems Administrator
Trimodal Inc.
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From: "Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom" <carls@agritech.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 15:48:36 -0700
Subject: Re: [TCLUG:9256] print server concepts
>I have not used multiple printers connected to the same print server
>under Linux, however the LPRng docs do cover that, and yes, each printer
>has its own queue, and also its own printcap entry, so that, for
>example, I can run one set of filters for my PostScript printer and
>another for my PCL printer.
one of the cool and non-obvious things you can do is set up multiple
print queues for the same printer. this way you can muck with changing print
filters, without affecting your (otherwise working) print queues.
Carl Soderstrom
System Administrator 307 Brighton Ave.
Minnesota DHIA Buffalo, MN
carls@agritech.com (612) 682-1091
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 18:31:37 -0500
From: dan <dan@williamsongraphics.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: tclug-list@mn-linux.org
Subject: Cisco 605 Internal DSL Router
I have been trying to get my internal Cisco 605 DSL Router to work in
Mandrake 6.1 to no avail. I can't seem to find any information on
anything but the 675.
I am still pretty new to Linux, but this thing is killing me.
Any help would be very appreciated.
Dan
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 22:52:40 -0500 (CDT)
From: Christopher Reid Palmer <reid@pconline.com>
To: tclug-list@mn-linux.org
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.04.9910182251540.7376-100000@localhost.localdomain>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Subject: Re: [TCLUG:9262] Cisco 605 Internal DSL Router
On Mon, 18 Oct 1999, dan wrote:
> I have been trying to get my internal Cisco 605 DSL Router to work in
> Mandrake 6.1 to no avail. I can't seem to find any information on
> anything but the 675.
You should go for the 675 anyway. All accounts are that the internal cards
are of low quality. Rumor has it that 40% of the units fail in the field.
:(
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 09:35:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mandar Vaze <mandar_v@yahoo.com>
To: tclug-list@mn-linux.org
MIME-Version: 1.0
Subject: Re: [TCLUG:9262] Cisco 605 Internal DSL Router
I'm not too sure, but if you got it from US West, then
most likely it is windows only card.
On their web site, there is a table describing the
difference between internal and external DSL
modem/router. One of the difference is internal is
windows only card while for external one (675) they
have mentioned unix and mac along with windows.
So my guess is it won't work with non-windows OS.
Check US West web site for details.
-Mandar
--- dan <dan@williamsongraphics.com> wrote:
> I have been trying to get my internal Cisco 605 DSL
> Router to work in
> Mandrake 6.1 to no avail. I can't seem to find any
> information on
> anything but the 675.
>
> I am still pretty new to Linux, but this thing is
> killing me.
>
> Any help would be very appreciated.
>
> Dan
>
>
>
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 10:27:49 -0500 (CDT)
From: Chris Kesler <chris@pconline.com>
To: The LUG <tclug-list@mn-linux.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.991019102241.6330D-100000@newton.pconline.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Subject: Netscape question
Hi all,
On a Windows system, when filling out a form in Netscape, you can tab
between fields in the form. And when you reach the bottom of the area
that's currently viewable, Netscape will scroll down automatically. Under
Linux, or any other Unix I've run Netscape on, you can tab between fields,
but the automatic scroll does not happen.
Does anyone know how to turn on this behavior, or does anyone have an
explanation of why it can't be done?
Thanks,
Chris
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 11:50:10 -0500
From: Dave Erickson <gsa700xxx@mediaone.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: tclug <tclug-list@mn-linux.org>
Subject: harware question(s)
I was wondering if anyone had a suggestion for a graphics card for my
Linux box. I am currently running an ATI Xpert98 8MB AGP.
I want to play Quake etc at full resolution (1280x1024) so I know I will
need a good card. Any suggestions? I want one that will install and is
supported without a great big hastle and If I can get one for a good
price well that would be even better:)
Do I have to replace my ATI card or can I get another card and use both?
Debian Potato
Xfree86 3.3.5
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From: Gabe Turner <dopp@acm.cs.umn.edu>
Message-Id: <199910191842.NAA18706@acm.cs.umn.edu>
To: tclug-list@mn-linux.org
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 13:42:40 -0500 (CDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Subject: Re: [TCLUG:9269] harware question(s)
I've had a really good experience with my Viper v770 Ultra (it's a TNT2 Ultra
based card). X works just fine with it, and it's supported under 3.3.5.
Gabe
>
> I was wondering if anyone had a suggestion for a graphics card for my
> Linux box. I am currently running an ATI Xpert98 8MB AGP.
>
> I want to play Quake etc at full resolution (1280x1024) so I know I will
> need a good card. Any suggestions? I want one that will install and is
> supported without a great big hastle and If I can get one for a good
> price well that would be even better:)
>
> Do I have to replace my ATI card or can I get another card and use both?
>
> Debian Potato
> Xfree86 3.3.5
>
> --
> Dave Erickson
> Remove "xxx" from address to reply
> http://debian.org http://linux.org
>
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