Re: [TCLUG:17250] [OT] Hardware Question

["Thomas T. Veldhouse" <veldy@veldy.net>]

$60 or so.  Try and find a Promise UDMA 66 controller.

Tom Veldhouse
veldy@veldy.net

----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Ackermann <brian_ackermann@bbros.com>
To: <tclug-list@mn-linux.org>
Sent: Friday, May 05, 2000 9:46 AM
Subject: Re: [TCLUG:17250] [OT] Hardware Question


> Ok, then, whats a 'medium-good' controller go for these days...better yet,
> whats a good model to look for?
>
> > From: "Carl Patten" <cpatte@trimodalinc.com>
> > Reply-To: tclug-list@mn-linux.org
> > Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 09:42:01 -0500
> > To: <tclug-list@mn-linux.org>
> > Subject: RE: [TCLUG:17250] [OT] Hardware Question
> >
> > There were some problems with early ATAPI implementations that led to
> > bizarre HD/CDROM conflicts even if they were on separate controllers.  I
bet
> > it goes away if you get that newer controller.
> >
> > --
> > Carl Patten
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Brian Ackermann [mailto:brian_ackermann@bbros.com]
> >> Sent: Friday, May 05, 2000 9:41 AM
> >> To: tclug-list@mn-linux.org
> >> Subject: Re: [TCLUG:17250] [OT] Hardware Question
> >>
> >>
> >> Tom,
> >>
> >> It is faster than 16x..20x if I remember correctly, but this issue
'feels'
> >> different than that...as my system hangs, the HD just chugs and chugs
and
> >> chugs, and after MANY seconds, it idles down and then the cd comes back
up
> >> again.  Your suggestion SOUNDS logical, but the bahavior would
> >> indicate that
> >> I have SEVERAL MB in buffers, waiting to off load....
> >>
> >> Personally, I think its an issue with a semi-faulty, or inefficient IDE
> >> controller...But I don't know much about hardware.  I only know that
every
> >> time I sit down to use this thing, that I want to throw it out the
window,
> >> because its so frustrating to do anything with...
> >>
> >>> From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <veldy@visi.com>
> >>> Reply-To: tclug-list@mn-linux.org
> >>> Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 09:18:58 -0500
> >>> To: <tclug-list@mn-linux.org>
> >>> Subject: Re: [TCLUG:17250] [OT] Hardware Question
> >>>
> >>> How fast is your CD-ROM.  If it is faster than about 16x, you
> >> might have a
> >>> problem where it constantly is spinning up and then settling
> >> down.  In that
> >>> case - you simply need a new CD-ROM.
> >>>
> >>> Tom Veldhouse
> >>> veldy@visi.com
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: Brian Ackermann <brian_ackermann@bbros.com>
> >>> To: tclug <tclug-list@mn-linux.org>
> >>> Sent: Friday, May 05, 2000 9:12 AM
> >>> Subject: [TCLUG:17250] [OT] Hardware Question
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Hey all,
> >>>>
> >>>> I've got a quick hardware question that I think someone can
> >> answer for me.
> >>>> I've got a computer at home that behaves 'badly' when
> >> accessing both the
> >>>> Hard disk and the cdrom.  I believe the HD is attached to the
> >> IDE primary,
> >>>> and the CD is attached to the secondary.
> >>>>
> >>>> When using both items at the same time, most notably when
transferring
> >>> data
> >>>> between them(I think everything works just fine if I'm
> >> listening to a CD,
> >>>> and crunching on the HD), I get errors all over the place.
> >>>>
> >>>> It seems that my HD just spins and spins and spins, and
> >> eventually the CD
> >>>> read buffer (or whatever) fills, and then times out.  Then the disk
> >>> catches
> >>>> up, grabs the buffer and flushes it, and then everything works
> >> peachy for
> >>>> another 10 seconds....
> >>>>
> >>>> As you can see, this makes lengthy installations of anything quite
> >>>> difficult.
> >>>>
> >>>> My question is, what can I do to fix this issue?  I had been
> >> planning on
> >>>> going with a full rebuild of the machine, getting a new case, mobo,
and
> >>>> anything else I can't salvage from this guy.
> >>>>
> >>>> But then I started thinking that maybe if I just bought a PCI IDE
> >>>> controller, and plugged my devices into that, that my problems may be
> >>>> resolved for a good deal less money.
> >>>>
> >>>> Tell me what you think.
> >>>> Brian
> >>>>
> >>>>
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