Re: [TCLUG:17250] [OT] Hardware Question

[Brian Ackermann <brian_ackermann@bbros.com>]

keen, thats what I was lookin' for!!

> From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <veldy@veldy.net>
> Reply-To: tclug-list@mn-linux.org
> Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 09:46:09 -0500
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> Subject: Re: [TCLUG:17250] [OT] Hardware Question
> 
> $60 or so.  Try and find a Promise UDMA 66 controller.
> 
> Tom Veldhouse
> veldy@veldy.net
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Brian Ackermann <brian_ackermann@bbros.com>
> To: <tclug-list@mn-linux.org>
> Sent: Friday, May 05, 2000 9:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [TCLUG:17250] [OT] Hardware Question
> 
> 
>> Ok, then, whats a 'medium-good' controller go for these days...better yet,
>> whats a good model to look for?
>> 
>>> From: "Carl Patten" <cpatte@trimodalinc.com>
>>> Reply-To: tclug-list@mn-linux.org
>>> Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 09:42:01 -0500
>>> To: <tclug-list@mn-linux.org>
>>> Subject: RE: [TCLUG:17250] [OT] Hardware Question
>>> 
>>> There were some problems with early ATAPI implementations that led to
>>> bizarre HD/CDROM conflicts even if they were on separate controllers.  I
> bet
>>> it goes away if you get that newer controller.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Carl Patten
>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Brian Ackermann [mailto:brian_ackermann@bbros.com]
>>>> Sent: Friday, May 05, 2000 9:41 AM
>>>> To: tclug-list@mn-linux.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [TCLUG:17250] [OT] Hardware Question
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Tom,
>>>> 
>>>> It is faster than 16x..20x if I remember correctly, but this issue
> 'feels'
>>>> different than that...as my system hangs, the HD just chugs and chugs
> and
>>>> chugs, and after MANY seconds, it idles down and then the cd comes back
> up
>>>> again.  Your suggestion SOUNDS logical, but the bahavior would
>>>> indicate that
>>>> I have SEVERAL MB in buffers, waiting to off load....
>>>> 
>>>> Personally, I think its an issue with a semi-faulty, or inefficient IDE
>>>> controller...But I don't know much about hardware.  I only know that
> every
>>>> time I sit down to use this thing, that I want to throw it out the
> window,
>>>> because its so frustrating to do anything with...
>>>> 
>>>>> From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <veldy@visi.com>
>>>>> Reply-To: tclug-list@mn-linux.org
>>>>> Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 09:18:58 -0500
>>>>> To: <tclug-list@mn-linux.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [TCLUG:17250] [OT] Hardware Question
>>>>> 
>>>>> How fast is your CD-ROM.  If it is faster than about 16x, you
>>>> might have a
>>>>> problem where it constantly is spinning up and then settling
>>>> down.  In that
>>>>> case - you simply need a new CD-ROM.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tom Veldhouse
>>>>> veldy@visi.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Brian Ackermann <brian_ackermann@bbros.com>
>>>>> To: tclug <tclug-list@mn-linux.org>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 05, 2000 9:12 AM
>>>>> Subject: [TCLUG:17250] [OT] Hardware Question
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I've got a quick hardware question that I think someone can
>>>> answer for me.
>>>>>> I've got a computer at home that behaves 'badly' when
>>>> accessing both the
>>>>>> Hard disk and the cdrom.  I believe the HD is attached to the
>>>> IDE primary,
>>>>>> and the CD is attached to the secondary.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> When using both items at the same time, most notably when
> transferring
>>>>> data
>>>>>> between them(I think everything works just fine if I'm
>>>> listening to a CD,
>>>>>> and crunching on the HD), I get errors all over the place.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It seems that my HD just spins and spins and spins, and
>>>> eventually the CD
>>>>>> read buffer (or whatever) fills, and then times out.  Then the disk
>>>>> catches
>>>>>> up, grabs the buffer and flushes it, and then everything works
>>>> peachy for
>>>>>> another 10 seconds....
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> As you can see, this makes lengthy installations of anything quite
>>>>>> difficult.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> My question is, what can I do to fix this issue?  I had been
>>>> planning on
>>>>>> going with a full rebuild of the machine, getting a new case, mobo,
> and
>>>>>> anything else I can't salvage from this guy.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> But then I started thinking that maybe if I just bought a PCI IDE
>>>>>> controller, and plugged my devices into that, that my problems may be
>>>>>> resolved for a good deal less money.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Tell me what you think.
>>>>>> Brian
>>>>>> 
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