I agree with the latter writer, but the "real" support person I get at Cisco is almost invariably a complete idiot who wastes my time and garbles the problem description. With Ascend I just get nothing at all. It's easy to see why so many customers are switching IN EACH DIRECTION. ++ Ascend Users Mailing List ++ To unsubscribe: send unsubscribe to ascend-users-request@bungi.com To get FAQ'd: <<A HREF="http://www.nealis.net/ascend/faq">http://www.nealis.net/ascend/faq</A>> </PRE> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <STRONG>Follow-Ups</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A HREF="msg09895.html">Re: (ASCEND) Re: sigh (bitching)</A></STRONG></LI> <UL> <LI><EM>From</EM>: Jason Nealis <nealis@babylon.erols.com></LI> </UL> <LI><STRONG><A HREF="msg09865.html">Re: (ASCEND) Re: sigh (bitching)</A></STRONG></LI> <UL> <LI><EM>From</EM>: Kevin Smith <kevin@ascend.com></LI> </UL> <LI><STRONG><A HREF="msg09859.html">Re: (ASCEND) Re: sigh (bitching)</A></STRONG></LI> <UL> <LI><EM>From</EM>: Karl Denninger <karl@mcs.net></LI> </UL> </UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A HREF="msg09786.html">Re: (ASCEND) Re: sigh (bitching)</A></STRONG></LI> <UL> <LI><EM>From</EM>: Joe Shaw <jshaw@evillive.insync.net></LI> </UL> </UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <HR> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg09858.html">(ASCEND) connection time/session time limit</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg09857.html">Re: (ASCEND) slow throughput Max 4004</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg09869.html">Re: (ASCEND) Re: sigh (bitching)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg09859.html">Re: (ASCEND) Re: sigh (bitching)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="mail7.html#09860"><STRONG>Main</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thrd195.html#09860"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> </BODY> </HTML>