Heard it all .. been there done that. IMHO .. the worst peice of hardware one has is the current one they are running. The worst piece of software is the the current one running ..etc..etc.. IT ALL looks greener on the other side. As someone stated, find the equipment that BEST suits what you are doing, dont try and ask more of it then it is capable of doing (a mans gotta know his limitations- same for equipment). So far, other than SOME crap that we have had to put up with, we have HAD very good success with ASCEND and have run a 99.4% uptime over a 18 month period ( .4% down time due to upgrades, .1% due to SERVER problems and another .1 to -WHO_THE_HECK_KNOWS- ;-> ). ASCEND makes a pretty decent low-to-middle level access router line, But I sure wouldnt ask the TNT to do the duties of a GRF. Just my 2 cents anyway ... Ben Duncan Tel: 601-371-1445 Vice President fax: 601-371-1639 Intop 7402 Siwell Road Ste. 120 www.intop.net Jackson, Ms 39212 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * A feature is just a bug with documentation. * * A bug becomes a feature by virtue of senority. * <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< ++ Ascend Users Mailing List ++ To unsubscribe: send unsubscribe to ascend-users-request@bungi.com To get FAQ'd: <<A HREF="http://www.nealis.net/ascend/faq">http://www.nealis.net/ascend/faq</A>> </PRE> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <STRONG>Follow-Ups</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A HREF="msg09883.html">Re: (ASCEND) Re: sigh (bitching)</A></STRONG></LI> <UL> <LI><EM>From</EM>: Kevin Smith <kevin@ascend.com></LI> </UL> </UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A HREF="msg09871.html">Re: (ASCEND) Re: sigh (bitching)</A></STRONG></LI> <UL> <LI><EM>From</EM>: Kevin Smith <kevin@ascend.com></LI> </UL> </UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <HR> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg09877.html">Re: (ASCEND) Re: sigh (bitching)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg09874.html">Re: (ASCEND) Re: sigh (bitching)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg09875.html">Re: (ASCEND) Re: sigh (bitching)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg09883.html">Re: (ASCEND) Re: sigh (bitching)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="mail6.html#09876"><STRONG>Main</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thrd195.html#09876"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> </BODY> </HTML>